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CNN International: Spain Through to Men's World Cup Final; Trump Cancels Strait of Hormuz Toll Plan; U.S. Renews Blockade on Iranian Ports; Fed Chair Kevin Warsh Begins Two Days of Testimony Before Congress; New York Governor Signs Moratorium on Large A.I. Data Centers; Outrage Over Two Fatal ICE Shootings; U.S. Justices Describe Security Threats; E. Jean Carroll Receives $5.6M Owed by Trump. Aired 6-7p ET

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PAULA NEWTON, CNN ANCHOR: Hello and a very warm welcome to our viewers joining us from all around the world. I'm Paula Newton in New York. Jim

Sciutto is off. You are watching "The Brief."

Just ahead this hour, fans celebrate as Spain book their place in the final of the Men's World Cup after beating France 2-nil. President Donald Trump

rolls back his threat to charge a 20 percent fee on cargo in the Strait of Hormuz. And a Supreme Court judge who was once handed a bulletproof vest

demands more money for security. That story and plenty more coming up.

Spanish fans erupt and rejoice as their squad earns a ticket to the World Cup final with a 2-nil win over France. That was in Texas. La Roja

dominated the first semifinal of the tournament. Shocking France, we have to say, who have been so strong throughout the competition. But only one

team can move on. It will be Spain's first appearance in a men's final since 2010.

CNN sports anchor, Don Riddell, is outside that stadium in Arlington, Texas. And he joins us now. I mean, Don, look, so many people had expected

a better matchup here. From what I heard, I couldn't watch the game. What were your impressions? And Spain really did look to take on France toe to

toe, as they say.

DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORT: It was an absolutely extraordinary performance from Spain, Paula. A very disappointing performance from

France. And not at all what we were expecting from Les Bleus. Because they had absolutely lit up this tournament. Entertaining us with their

swaggering, swashbuckling, attacking style of play. And they have so many players who can hurt you in so many different ways.

And the theme or the theory going into this match was that, OK, Spain could maybe figure out how to shut down Mbappe or Dembele or Olise. But they

wouldn't better snuff all three out. And that's exactly what happened in the end. This was a team performance from Spain, who came into this game as

the pre-tournament favorites. They were kind of overshadowed because of the way France were playing. And by the end of the group stage, it was France

who were the favorites to win the tournament.

But Spain came into this tournament with a lot of people thinking they were going to do it. They're the reigning European champions. They got all the

way to this game by only conceding one goal. They kept another clean sheet here today, winning this game 2-nil.

And, yes, it was just a great team performance from Spain. They made sure that France just never really got a sniff. But in the end, I think the

French will be very, very disappointed with their performance today. They were hoping to make a third consecutive World Cup final appearance. A lot

of their fans were excited that they were arguably the best team that France had ever produced. And they were in with a really good shout of

winning a third World Cup title. But it has ended with barely a whimper from them. Spain now go on to the final.

And given this performance today, given that they are so miserly, given that it is so hard to score against them, I think whoever wins this second

semifinal tomorrow, Spain must surely be the favorites.

NEWTON: And to that game, Don, it is England versus Argentina in Atlanta, your home. I'm willing to bet you're headed there now, and everybody must

be pumped.

RIDDELL: Yes, I'm on the first flight out tomorrow to get back to Atlanta for that. Because, yes, I mean, I can't wait for that game.

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So, much history between England and Argentina in the World Cup. Most famously, 1986, when England were knocked out by two very contrasting Diego

Maradona goals. I mean, the first one, infamous, the hand of God, where he punched it over the goalie, Peter Schild, into the net. The second,

arguably the best goal ever scored in the World Cup. So, that one instantly became part of the law.

Then, of course, there was the famous clash in 1998, where David Beckham was sent off and became vilified by a nation. Hard to believe, because he's

so beloved now. But that was the lowest moment of Beckham's career. England went out that night on penalties. They played again four years later in

2002, when Beckham redeemed himself with a penalty.

So, these two sides are clashing again, with so much now on the line. So, I would expect that to be an extraordinary match. It will certainly be a

fabulous atmosphere in Atlanta at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium.

But as I say, I think whoever comes through that game is going to really struggle in the final against Spain, who are looking to emulate what the

team did back in 2010, when they arrived as European champions. And then they became world champions. Spain are in exactly that position again. They

have really showed what they're made of with a massive performance against France today.

NEWTON: Don, we know your analysis is always objective. We're not going to blame you, though, if your heart and soul is with the England team

tomorrow. We will wait for your reports from there. Thanks so much. Appreciate it.

RIDDELL: All right.

NEWTON: And we will have much more later in the show on the World Cup and the fans' reaction. We do want to turn now, though, to the Middle East.

Iran and the U.S. continue to trade strikes as the U.S. renews its blockade of Iranian ports.

Now, earlier, U.S. President Donald Trump hosted Iraqi prime minister, Ali al-Zaidi. Mr. Trump walking back his demand to charge ships in the Strait

of Hormuz a 20 percent fee on their cargo. Listen.

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DONALD TRUMP, U.S. PRESIDENT: Because I don't think anybody should be able to charge a fee for the Strait or for any other Strait relationship in

terms of other sections of the world. I don't think anybody should be really in that position. But we were doing it as a reimbursement. The Gulf

states are going to invest a tremendous amount of money into the United States. And that was very satisfactory to me. I think it's actually much

better.

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NEWTON: Kevin Liptack joins me now. There was certainly a sigh of relief heard around the world when he backed away from that 20 percent, not the

least of which from the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, who had insisted that no one could charge fees there in the Strait. Where is the strategy

headed now, though, Kevin? Because the blockade now is supposed to be underway in the Strait of Hormuz.

KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Right. And it began two hours ago, CENTCOM saying that after, you know, another round of American

strikes on Iran, that the blockade was in place, that it was being enforced by 20 Navy warships and hundreds of U.S. military aircraft. So, a sizable

American footprint in the region to now enforce what had been in place before the memorandum of understanding had been lifted as part of that

agreement and is now in place again.

But when you ask now what the strategy is, I still think it's somewhat unclear. It's not precisely evident why the president thinks the blockade

will work now to force Iranian concessions in a way that it did not work previously. And it does lead, I think, to the sense of strategic morass in

a lot of ways. The president has tried carrots in the form of incentives and sanctions relief that were in the deal. He's now back to trying sticks

in the form of nightly airstrikes and the naval blockade.

But none of it seems to be forcing the concessions that he hopes from Iran. He has sort of asserted that the war is won and that a short round of

intensive bombing runs will be all that it takes to get Iran to heal. But the conditions on the ground seem to suggest something very different, Iran

sort of making maximal use of the leverage that it has over the Strait.

Now, when it comes to his reversal on this 20 percent fee, you know, when the president announced that yesterday, it did cause a massive scramble

both inside the White House and in the region to try and ascertain what exactly the president had in mind here. You know, he had floated publicly

the idea of the U.S. charging tolls in the Strait of Hormuz before, but he had never followed through on that, in part because his advisers had warned

that that could cause pressures on both energy prices and extension, political pressure on Republicans ahead of the midterm elections.

But they also warned that it would undermine the United States' own warnings against Iran for the fees it was charging in the Strait.

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And so, the president had stopped short of carrying those out before, until Monday, when he very abruptly announced that he would be charging this 20

percent fee on vessels in the Strait. American advisers sort of scrambled behind the scenes to determine how those fees would be enacted and who

precisely in the American government would be collecting them.

You also had a scramble on the part of leaders in the Gulf, and the president mentioned that earlier today, that he had gotten calls from,

quote, "kings and emirs," suggesting this alternative plan, which is that they would invest in the United States, and that would act as

reimbursement.

Now, whether those are new investments or whether they're the -- in the president's telling, $2 trillion in investments that these countries made

when the president visited the Middle East early in his term, well, we don't know exactly.

But I think it all just goes to show that the president now is sort of casting about, looking for a way to shake loose some sort of resolution in

this conflict. So, far, he's not having much luck in that, Paula.

NEWTON: All right. Kevin Liptak, grateful to you for the update from the White House. Appreciate it.

Now, earlier I asked the secretary general of the U.N.'s International Maritime Organization if he was confident the issue of tolls in the Strait,

whether Iranian or American, was over.

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ARSENIO DOMINGUEZ, SECRETARY-GENERAL, INTERNATIONAL MARITIME ORGANIZATION: It's becoming clearer and clearer. The more that this topic is raised, the

more that through the IMO and through all the countries and entities, it is underlined that in accordance to international law and the well-established

practices, there is no country that can introduce a fee or a toll for ships transiting on Straits for international navigations, the more that we see

that this is actually something that it will be retained.

And just last week, the Council of the International Maritime Organization adopted a resolution in accordance to this international law rule in order

to uphold that principle, and that's something that I'm not going to change the position of the organization, of the message that all the 176 member

states continue to call upon.

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NEWTON: Joining me now, former Chief of U.S. Naval Operations, Retired Admiral Gary Roughead. Thank you so much for joining us, Admiral. We really

appreciate it. As we've said the blockade should be on right now. How effective do you believe the first blockade was, and do you believe

operationally that, again, this is doable in the Strait?

ADM. GARY ROUGHEAD, U.S. NAVY (RET.): I think the first blockade was really very effective and our Navy has the ability, and as your reporter

mentioned, to involve ships, aircraft. So, the blockade really begins well away from the Strait of Hormuz, and we have the capability to surveil that

area and then be able to vector ships in to make the intercepts in order to enforce the blockade, which was done, I think, very well in the first

iteration. So, I have no doubt that the same practices, the same processes will be in effect, and the blockade will be effective.

That said, I think it will be important to show Iran that we can do this for the long haul, and therefore, I think we need to be in the mi- in the

mode of beginning to queue up relief forces because you just can't keep the ships out there forever. So, I think that would be a strong signal to send.

NEWTON: And I will get to that point for y- with you, especially given your experience as the head of Naval Operations for the United States. I do

want to go back to the blockade. Now, look, this is a setback. We all thought we were getting to a ceasefire and then possibly a long-term

solution. Again, going to your point of military presence, do you think that this means that in one way or the other, the U.S. will be forcefully

engaged in this Strait for months, maybe even years to come?

ROUGHEAD: I think that it is a good assumption to say that we'll be there for weeks and perhaps months, because I do believe that the Iranians will

be digging in that they will be at attacking ships, perhaps attacking some of our Gulf friends at the same time. So, I think it's prudent to get the

forces in place and have the expectation that we will be there.

Now, couple that with the strikes and the pressure that the International Community will be bringing to bear on Iran, and the economic strain that

the country is under, I'm hopeful that we may begin to see some opportunities to get back to the table and hash out a new agreement.

NEWTON: Yes, this Iranian regime though, certainly a group of survivors at this point in every description. I want to go to your experience as a board

member at Maersk. It is one of the largest shipping companies in the world. How compromised do you believe supply chains are right now given that this

has lasted much longer than anyone expected?

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I mean, and you know, you've heard the comments, right? From analysts that we're neither going to be -- it's going to -- neither be war nor peace for

some time to come.

ROUGHEAD: I think that you're beginning to see, and you have seen how the shipping companies are beginning to reset their routes. I think it's

important to keep in mind that the safety of the ships, and particularly the safety of the mariners, is top of mind. So, I think that the supply

chains will adjust accordingly and take on different routes.

Now, the problem with the Strait of Hormuz is it's a one-way access. And so, the flows going in and out of the Gulf I think will still be under

strain. And you're already beginning to see where some of the countries are putting in place pipelines to avoid having to pass through the Gulf, but

that's for energy. And I think we also have to keep in mind that there are containers that move, there's bulk freight that moves food and other

supplies. So, I have little doubt that the supply lines will adjust, but they will adjust at cost.

NEWTON: Right. Like you said, there would be a cost to that. And we do go back to your experience as a naval commander. You were the one-time chief

of naval operations for the United States. Are you worried about the U.S. Navy being stretched right now?

And we all have seen their professionalism firsthand. Our colleague Pamela Brown was on the aircraft carrier, Abraham Lincoln, last week. Look, in

terms of the toll it's taking on personnel and in terms of defense budgets, is this something that, that, you know, Congress, the president, the

Pentagon needs to be really keeping an eye on?

ROUGHEAD: Absolutely. You know, these operations come at a cost, not only the current operations and the expenditure of weapons and fuel but it's

also the cost that's incurred because the ships are out there for a long period of time. When they return home, the maintenance is much more

significant.

And then it's also, as you pointed out, Paula, so important to keep the welfare of our sailors and their families in mind, because these

deployments are arduous. It's easy when you go on a deployment, but if you don't know when you're coming home, that changes the calculus quite a bit.

And so, that's why I was saying earlier, it's going to be important that we put in place a plan and that we queue up the resources and the ships and

the airplanes that are necessary to do this for the long haul, and in doing so, send the signal to Iran that we're set to do that, and we can wait you

out.

NEWTON: Yes. Like you said, not just to send the signal to Iran, but also for the benefit of personnel out there. Admiral, really appreciate your

expertise as we continue to see now the newest blockade now in force for more than two hours. Really appreciate it.

ROUGHEAD: Thank you very much.

NEWTON: OK. Still ahead for us, a pretty good day for a Fed chair to testify before Congress, right? Kevin Warsh laid out his vision for the

U.S. Central Bank amid encouraging new inflation data. The latest on the Fed's inflation fight. We'll have that next.

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NEWTON: And welcome back. And today's business breakout, a mostly higher day on Wall Street. The NASDAQ rallied almost 1 percent thanks to a bounce

in chip stocks. Banks rallied too after strong earnings from five U.S. financial giants, including Goldman Sachs, which rose 9 percent to record

highs.

There was one big stock loser, though. IBM shares tumbled 25 percent after a profit warning. It says clients are spending less on software and more on

hardware like memory chips. It was IBM's worst day ever on Wall Street.

Also, today, investors reacting to a weaker-than-expected read on U.S. inflation. Consumer prices rose at an annual rate of 3.5 percent in June.

That's well below the 4.2 rate the month before and the biggest monthly drop in six years. Much of that drop, however, was due to falling energy

prices, which are on the rise again due to the new fighting in the U.S. around war. Now, the average price of a gallon of gas at the U.S. stands at

$3.85 a gallon. That's six cents a gallon higher than a week ago.

So, Fed Chair Kevin Warsh vowed to bring inflation down to the central bank's 2 percent target during testimony before Congress today. He had this

to say about today's encouraging inflation data.

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KEVIN WARSH, CHAIR, U.S. FEDERAL RESERVE: The reason I create a task force on data is I don't want to over-read or cherry-pick data. There might be

some that look at this morning's data and say, oh, mission accomplished, everything is swell. That is not my view.

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NEWTON: Now, that was Warsh's first appearance before Congress before taking the helm of the U.S. central bank. He was also asked about Fed

independence and the threat of policy interference from President Trump.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you decide this is the way to go, this is where the data shades, and he publicly criticizes you and tells you how disappointed

he's in you and all of that, will you still do what the data tells you to do?

WARSH: I will, Congressman.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're ready for that?

WARSH: I'm ready to follow the law, and I'm ready for the Fed to deliver on the expansive remit that you gave us.

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NEWTON: Now, earlier I spoke with Jason Furman. He is a former chairman of the U.S. Council of Economic Advisers, and I asked him about Warsh's

testimony and the outlook for U.S. inflation.

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JASON FURMAN, FORMER CHAIRMAN, U.S. COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC ADVISERS AND PRACTICE OF ECONOMIC POLICY PROFESSOR, HARVARD KENNEDY SCHOOL: We are

still running inflation, you know, well above 3 percent. They want it to be at 2 percent. I'm actually cautiously optimistic that this time around it

may actually be transitory. That word was much mocked last time around. I did not believe it was transitory last time around. But now, labor markets

are cooler, wage growth is slowing, a lot of things in the economy look, you know, moderate in that respect.

So, I do think the Fed can and will afford to wait a couple months to see where things are going before they have to make a move.

NEWTON: And the renewed price shock to energy futures, you think it also again might be short-lived?

FURMAN: That price shock is still way below where we were a few months ago. So, you know, what we're talking about is gasoline prices are going to

continue to come down. Are they going to come down as much as we were hoping or a bit less than we were hoping? We're not talking about gas

prices moving back up again.

NEWTON: Got you. Many are applauding Kevin Warsh. He's promised to reform the Fed. There are task forces underway. What will change if you believe he

gets the reforms that he wants?

FURMAN: Look, Kevin Warsh is a smart guy, in many ways a terrific choice. But he had been a really big critic of everything the Fed did, but never

really explained exactly what he would do differently. And so, I'm glad that he's hitting the pause button. He's not walking in and changing

everything on day one. But instead, he picked a set of people to give him advice. The task forces are staffed with a bunch of really, really terrific

economists with global experience.

And so, right now, he's not really giving a lot of specificity. I don't want to hear specificity from him. I want to hear an open mind and then,

you know, sometime and then to come out of that with more specificity.

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NEWTON: Right. But the Fed chair will have to ensure that certainly all the Fed governors are specific about rising interest rates, right? I mean,

what do you think their posture is after today? I mean, we were at nearly, yesterday we were at 43 percent chance of a rate hike in July. Now, I think

it's back down to 10 or 12 percent. What do you think?

FURMAN: I never thought we were going to have a rate hike in July. There are enough mixed messages going on in the economy right now that the Fed

will probably want a few more months for that data to sort itself out. But I do think it'll be a split vote at the next meeting. He had that honeymoon

first meeting with a unanimous FOMC. I don't think we're going to see a whole lot of unanimous meetings going forward.

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NEWTON: Checking some of today's other business headlines. U.S. senators unveiled a sweeping bipartisan Russia sanctions bill on Capitol Hill today.

They're urging Congress to pass the legislation quickly to honor one of its main sponsors, the late Senator Lindsey Graham. If passed, it would impose

sanctions on Russian political and military leaders, oligarchs and state- owned enterprises. It would also target Russia's shadow fleet, energy projects and financial institutions.

The Trump administration says it's recovered more than a billion dollars from its crackdown on trade fraud. The figures, shared exclusively with

CNN, include money recovered through criminal and civil cases. The U.S. has made trade enforcement a central part of its effort to collect taxes and

tariffs and punish firms accused of dodging trade rules.

Warren Buffett has stopped donating money to the Gates Foundation amid the ongoing probe into its ties with Jeffrey Epstein. Buffett was a founding

trustee of the foundation, along with Microsoft founder Bill Gates, and has continued to donate billions to the charity up until now. Buffett said he

is instead donating about $6 billion worth of Berkshire Hathaway stock to four family foundations this year.

OK. New York governor, Kathy Hochul, made history today by signing a one- year state moratorium on major A.I. data center projects. This is the first statewide measure passed in the United States intended to slow down data

center growth. Hochul says the projects are putting unprecedented demand on energy and water resources and are threatening to drive up utility costs

for consumers.

Opposition to A.I. data centers is growing both in the U.S. and right around the world. Residents in Monterey Park, California, recently voted to

permanently ban data centers in their city. In Europe, the city of Amsterdam has barred new data centers and data center expansions until at

least 2030.

Kristen Gonzalez joins me now. She is a New York state senator and a sponsor of the moratorium measure. Good to have you on the program. Thanks

so much.

STATE SEN. KRISTEN GONZALEZ (D-NY): Thank you so much for having me.

NEWTON: You know, why this measure and why now? Whether it's at the state level or the local level, New York can do hard things, right? You can

regulate development, ensure it serves the interests of New Yorkers. Why this pause? Why is it needed?

GONZALEZ: I think this pause is necessary because it has been clear that with the 28 potential hyperscale data centers coming online, we have about

9,000 megawatts that may come onto our energy grid that is already strained. New Yorkers can't afford the energy strain. They can't afford the

utility bills. And they certainly can't afford the strains on our water resources and our environmental resource.

So, that is why we put forward the responsible Data Center Development Act, which passed through both chambers with bipartisan support this year. And

we worked with our governor to make sure this executive order included a moratorium. I want to thank her for her leadership.

NEWTON: Can New York state afford to be out of it, though, for a year in terms of the advances of A.I. and perhaps the need to build these data

centers?

GONZALEZ: I think we can. I think the one-year moratorium is a good balance between pausing so we can intentionally plan for a positive energy

future where we don't see our utility bills go up and where we can see future investment in about a year when we're ready to bring on those

hyperscale data centers and certainly have the information to understand what their widespread impact will be.

So, we are balancing interests from the business community, from folks who want to continue to see innovation here, but also balance interests of our

constituents who really want to ensure that we are responsibly developing data centers.

NEWTON: You know, what have you heard from people in New York state about the data centers and their apprehension to it? Is it the look of them, the

use of the electricity or the water or something that might be more problematic? Just a knee-jerk reaction to the fear of A.I.?

GONZALEZ: I think it's a little bit of all of the above. But the truth is that this is one of the most unifying issues for New Yorkers.

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It transcends demographics, it transcends geographies, New Yorkers upstate and downstate are also concerned, and it also, with bipartisan support,

clearly transcends ideologies. And I think what I'm hearing from my constituents is while they're excited about innovation, they don't want

technology to come at the expense of their bills or our environment, and they're looking to government to be proactive in this case, to protect all

of us.

NEWTON: You know, you identify as a Democratic socialist. We've heard a lot about that in the last year. I'm wondering how your philosophy in

general applies to A.I. companies, because I don't have to remind you, New York State is in competition with other states in this country and other

countries. So, how do you make sure you do get all those benefits from AI, as you said, as a self-described Democratic socialist?

GOLODRYGA: Well, that's correct. I'm a Democratic socialist, and I'm also a former tech worker. I understand the immense potential of A.I. and

innovation, but I also understand that good tech policy comes from making sure technology makes our lives better and our products better, but not

harder and not at the expense of our environment and our bills, etc.

So, I think being a Democratic socialist, but actually a state senator that represents three boroughs, it is incumbent on me, our state legislature,

and our governor to make sure that we are putting forward executive orders and robust legislation like the bill that we passed this year to continue

to serve New Yorkers and carve a path forward that balances innovation, but again, comes back to responsibly planning for the future.

NEWTON: Senator Gonzalez, thanks so much for being with us. Appreciate it.

GONZALEZ: Thank you again.

NEWTON: Next, two fatal ICE shootings just days apart, the incidents shining a harsh new spotlight on the U.S. immigration crackdown that

continues.

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NEWTON: And welcome back to "The Brief." I'm Paula Newton. Here are the international headlines we're watching today.

U.S. President Donald Trump is walking back his plans to charge a 20 percent fee for cargo traveling through the Strait of Hormuz. He says Gulf

states will instead make investment deals with the U.S. for months. Administration officials have said an Iranian proposal to charge tolls in

the Strait would be a violation of international law.

British counterterrorism police say Ann Widdecombe was killed in a targeted attack. The controversial former lawmaker was found dead in her home on

Thursday. A 28-year-old man remains under arrest on suspicion of terrorism- related offenses.

A federal court has released more than five and a half million dollars owed by President Trump to writer, E. Jean Carroll. A jury found three years ago

Mr. Trump had sexually abused and defamed Carroll. The money was released after the Supreme Court denied the president's request to hear his appeal.

The total sum includes the award of damages plus interest.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement appears to be switching tactics after two fatal shootings involving its officers in less than a week. A

source says ICE agents have been directed to suspend most vehicle stops under further notice -- until further notice, pardon me. The decision comes

one day after Joan Sebastian Guerrero, a 26-year-old Colombian, was shot and killed during an operation in Maine.

Jason Carroll is in Biddeford, Maine where a community continues to be outraged and they're certainly showing their grief. I mean, Jason, there

have been very few details forthcoming really from ICE about how and why this happened and we have to admit, right, ICE has still been out there

even though perhaps the spotlight wasn't quite as pronounced that it has been. They are trying to get their numbers in terms of the amount of people

apprehended and deported.

JASON CARROLL, CNN U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is true. I mean, this is what we're hearing from lawmakers here, Paula, that there is some sort

of a quota that these agents have to meet and perhaps that's putting pressure on them to up their numbers, bringing more people into custody as

best they can.

But you also talked about the -- how folks here on the ground are responding to what happened and we've seen evidence of that here at this

park just a few blocks away from when the shooting took place. We've seen this outpouring of support for what happened and for the person who was

killed. And we've heard from a number of people who are here on the ground about what there -- about what is going to happen next, and their concerns

about what is going to happen next in terms of the investigation.

Notably, will there be accountability and will there be transparency?

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CARROLL (voice-over): In a major reversal of tactics, ICE now pausing most vehicle stops after fatal shootings in Texas and Maine in the last week

drew criticism and outrage nationwide. Sources tell CNN the guidance applies to the enforcement and removal operations of ICE, the branch that

serves deportation warrants. The agency has leaned on vehicle stops to ramp up immigration arrests. Officials say both men who were killed were not the

targets of such warrants.

Maine lawmakers say there are still many unanswered questions about why ICE officers use deadly force when they stopped Joan Guerrero at this

intersection early Monday in Biddeford, Maine.

REP. CHELLIE PINGREE (D-ME): Homeland Security was saying that the officer field for their life. That's what they always say that the individual

weaponized their car. But then we heard 12 hours later in the day that they feared for public safety. This man was shot four times through the

windshield. So, there was an ICE officer shooting him directly in the face.

CARROLL (voice-over): Democratic Maine congressman, Jared Golden, posting on X. Unfortunately, the ICE officers involved in this incident were not

yet wearing body cameras, which could have helped to establish those necessary facts. DHS needs to make this a priority.

DHS releasing a statement blaming Democrats for no body cameras, adding body cameras have been deployed to more than half the field offices with

the remaining half to receive them in the next 60 days. Body worn cameras absent in both deadly ICE involved shootings in Maine and Texas, though $20

million in funding has been allocated for them. The department has pledged to roll them out for the past five months. That is little comfort to those

calling for accountability and transparency.

MONTY ELLISON, LIVES NEAR SCENE OF SHOOTING: People have to realize this is not normal and it cannot become normal at all.

PEGGO HODES, VISITED SCENE OF SHOOTING: This is murder with impunity and this could be happening to any one of us, any one of us.

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He's 26-year-old with a child. He has a legitimate reason for being here. He had Social Security. It's horrific.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No justice, no peace.

CARROLL (voice-over): As protests continue, CNN is learning more about the man who was killed. His father telling Blue Radio, a popular station in

Colombia, his son was working as a cleaner and a delivery driver, hoping to build a better future for his family.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): He has his wife and his three- year-old girl. He is a very hard-working person, a very loving person, and a person who loves his family very much. His daughter, his little three-

year-old daughter, he worked for them.

CARROLL (voice-over): A neighbor telling CNN, Duran Guerrero was a good husband and father.

OMAR DURAN, FATHER OF JOAN SEBASTIAN DURAN GUERRERO (through translator): He wasn't a bad guy. And the speculation that he was a criminal and had an

order of deportation, that's a total lie.

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CARROLL (on camera): And, Paula, Duran Guerrero's father also saying more about how this has impacted the entire family, saying how much immense pain

this has caused the family. And his mother also speaking out. She posted on social media saying, quote, "You went to search for the American dream and

that same country ended your life." Paula.

NEWTON: This is so good to have you there as we continue to see the community alarmed and looking for more answers about this incident. Jason

Carroll for us. Appreciate it.

Now, in new developments from Florida, a person who ran away from federal immigration agents in the city of St. Augustine was struck and killed by a

tractor trailer. That's according to the Florida Highway Patrol. The county sheriff's office has released the image that you're looking at now from the

scene. Florida's Highway Patrol is now investigating the incident, which happened around 6:40 this morning. The person's nationality and immigration

status are not yet known. CNN has reached out to the Department of Homeland Security for their comment.

Just ahead, a rare appearance on Capitol Hill by two U.S. Supreme Court justices. They delivered an unusually personal plea, and it is disturbing.

We'll explain next.

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NEWTON: In a rare appearance on Capitol Hill today, two U.S. Supreme Court justices testified on the need for more security. Elena Kagan and Amy Coney

Barrett told lawmakers about increased personal threats facing members of the court. They are asking lawmakers for millions of dollars in additional

funding.

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At one point, Barry gave a personal -- Barrett, pardon me, gave a personal account of when she was given a bulletproof vest for her own protection.

Listen.

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AMY CONEY BARRETT, U.S. SUPREME COURT ASSOCIATE JUSTICE: When threats to my life were particularly intense a few years ago around the time of the

Dobbs leak, my security detail sent me home with a bulletproof vest and I carried it into my house, put it into my bedroom, dropped it down on a

table, turned around and my 12-year-old son was standing in the doorway of my bedroom and he wanted to know what it was and why I had it and I didn't

know how to respond because maybe I lack imagination, but I didn't expect that performing this service was going to put me in the position of

explaining to my children what a bulletproof vest was and why I had to wear one.

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NEWTON: Chief Supreme Court Analyst, Joan Biskupic, was there for all of that testimony. Joan, it was chilling to hear that from her and this is a

job of a Supreme Court Justice, not a Secret Service officer, not a police officer. It really says a lot about the point that they're at.

JOAN BISKUPIC, CNN CHIEF SUPREME COURT ANALYST: It really does. And, you know, she has seven children and she detailed another episode where, and

one much more recent just a few weeks ago, one of her sons opened the front door and all these police officers were out front. The family had been a

victim of one of those swatting episodes where someone calls the police and says, you know, something's going on in that house. Now, of course, it was

a false report, but it still unnerved the family, she said. And she talked about other instances of, you know, unwanted packages delivered there, you

know, ominously.

So, Justice Amy Coney Barrett certainly was a compelling personal voice for the message that the Supreme Court needs more money for security. And

security dominated the hearing, Paula. Cyber security issues, too. More money for not just having residential protection, but also for travel and a

new screening at the Supreme Court, a new residential center for some of the officers.

So, that dominated a lot of it, but this was an opportunity the first time since 2019 that any justices had testified on the Hill. So, members of

Congress, both on the House and Senate side, two separate hearings, brought up issues about ethics and accountability, brought up issues about the

emergency docket, sometimes called the shadow docket, where the justices have been resolving a lot of President Trump's litigation and doing it

without full briefing or oral arguments, and in most cases, siding with the president. So, several members had questions about that, too.

So, it was a very wide airing of issues, including, as I say, on ethics. And I think probably both those justices who were very good advocates for

the court, for their mission of getting more money, might think that it shouldn't be another seven years before they return to the Hill. Paula.

NEWTON: Yes. Shall we say that they pressed their case, right?

BISKUPIC: They did.

NEWTON: The committee.

BISKUPIC: They did.

NEWTON: Before I let you go, we reported earlier that those funds to E. Jean Carroll, they were released. Can you just bring us up to date on why

this is such a milestone in this case?

BISKUPIC: It is because -- OK, this arises from a civil case she had against, at the time, former President Trump for physical abuse from an

incident that occurred back in the '90s, and a jury had awarded her that money. She had been awarded it, and he had put the money up with the court.

So, it was there once his appeals ran. And about two weeks ago -- actually, it was -- yes, it was one of the last days of the term, last week of June,

the justices denied his appeal. It was his last-ditch appeal for these millions of dollars. I think it's about $5 million that were finally

released to E. Jean Carroll.

So, that was the end of the line, and it was quite a momentous conclusion to something that had been in the air in her life, she said, since the

'90s, but certainly on the public stage since shortly after he was elected, Paula.

NEWTON: Yes, quite a litigation there.

BISKUPIC: Yes.

NEWTON: Joan Biskupic, always good to see you. Thanks so much.

BISKUPIC: Thank you.

NEWTON: Now, Spain, they left France stunned and heartbroken with a 2-nil win. We are live in Madrid as fans celebrate their team heading to the

Men's World Cup Final.

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So, this was a semi-final, but it was supposed to be like a final. It was Spain and France. So, many hopes for a very tight game. Instead, not many

people expected this, but the Spanish team really did walk away with this win. After seeing such explosive offense from France, Spain took the world

by surprise. Beating Les Bleus 2-nil at that Dallas stadium.

Now, Spain dominated throughout the match and will face the winner of Wednesday's matchup between Argentina and England. Winner take all.

Our Paul Maschera is at the Fan Zone in Madrid. I spoke to you a couple of hours ago just before it was final. Can't imagine how Spain is feeling

right now.

PAU MOSQUERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, if you all like chaos and celebrations, Madrid is your place right now. Because all the thousands of

fans that were inside the Fan Zone just stepped outside. And right now, they are all spread out around this Paseo de la Castellana that is here

behind me. Let me show you a little bit how does it look right now, Paula.

This is one of the main avenues in the Spanish capital. And during this last hour, hundreds of them, they were blocking the avenue and celebrating

with the drivers in the cars, in the motorcycles. And well, just sharing the joy of this moment. Because it's important to say, Paula, that after 16

years, La Roca has made it again to a World Cup final. This is why it is so special for them.

Here, look. Have a look around. We have some people crossing this area across. Some of them still celebrating. Well, there's a lot of excitement.

As you can see, a lot of fun here outside the Fan Zone. They are still celebrating.

So, do you speak English? Wait, wait, wait. Let's try to make the question, Paula. Tomorrow we have the second semifinal of England and Argentina. Who

would you prefer as a rival in the final?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Argentina. Of course Argentina.

MOSQUERA: Who would you prefer?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would prefer Argentina, too, because they're robbing a lot. I want to be the last and be the best. The best selection in the

world.

NEWTON: It will be epic either way. Pau, I hate to tell you, but they have stolen the show there. They are happy campers. Enjoy Madrid. Enjoy the

celebration to all of Spain. We look forward to seeing you in the final. Pau, good job there, holding it together.

Now, Norway's World Cup run may have come to an end, but our break has turned to celebration for their national team as they arrived home to a

hero's welcome. Look at that. More than 100,000 fans greeted them at the Royal Palace in Oslo. You know what they're doing there, the row.

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Norway is celebrating its best. Men's World Cup ever, reaching the quarterfinal and launching a global craze with its Viking row cheer. And

those pictures are spectacular.

But there's more. Norwegian superstar scorer, Erling Haaland, showed off a souvenir from his time in the U.S., a stuffed raccoon he bought at a store

in Oslo. The raccoon sells for $750. I mean, that's a mere fraction of what he pays for his handbags. And the store says that after Haaland brought

one, of course, they sold out immediately. Lovely. All right.

And finally, for us tonight, France. Yes, they may be commiserating about football right now, but that was after celebrating Bastille Day earlier in

the day. Events began with fireworks illuminating the skies above Paris. Stunning. President Emmanuel Macron presided over the traditional military

parade, the last one of his presidency, in fact. 500 soldiers from Ukraine and its allies joined this year, and many world leaders, including

Ukraine's President Zelenskyy, attended the event, winning a ticket to the World Cup final. Yes, that would have been the cherry on top. As they say

in French, c'est la vie.

All right. That's it. I want to thank you for your company. I'm Paula Newton. You've been watching "The Brief." Stay with CNN for more news.

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