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U.N. Chief Calls on Mideast Leaders to Tamp Down Wave of Violence; Royal Welcome for the Chinese President. Aired 3-4p ET.
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HALA GORANI, HOST: Tonight, growing tension and a plea for calm.
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GORANI: The U.N. Chief calls on mid-east leaders to tamp down a recent wave of violence. We are live in Jerusalem with the very latest.
Also this hour, a royal welcome for the Chinese President. London rolls out the red carpet and the golden carriages but not everyone is happy.
Plus political history made in Canada. Liberal Justin Trudeau to become the next Prime Minister. We speak to a Veteran MP from his victorious party.
And fans are feeling the force. As a new "Star Wars" trailer is released.
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GORANI: Hello, everyone. I'm Hala Gorani. We are live at CNN London. Thanks for being with us this hour; this is "The World Right Now.
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GORANI: Stabbing attacks in the streets, a deadly hit and run. Growing protests in the West Bank; Israelis and Palestinians are once again at
boiling point. Now even the U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon says they are standing on the brink of another round of "catastrophic violence."
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GORANI: He is urging both sides to de-escalate weeks of deadly conflict. Ban met with the Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. You're see
images from that today in Jerusalem. He will also meet with the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah. Mr. Netanyahu accused Mr. Abbas of
fanning the flames of violence, accusing him of "glorifying terrorists."
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: I believe it's time to tell the truth about the causes of Palestinian terrorism. It's not the settlements.
It's not the peace process. It's the desire to destroy the state of Israel, pure and simple. President Abbas unfortunately has been fanning the flames.
He said on September 16th, just a few days ago that he welcomes, "every drop of blood spilled in Jerusalem."
GORANI: Well, that from the Israeli Prime Minister, and it's happening against this back drop. A violent day in the West Bank, yet another one.
Israeli police report three attacks there including one near the Gush Etzion settlement.
They say a Palestinian driver rammed his car into a bus stop injuring two Israelis. Israeli security forces fired tear gas to clear protesters in
Bethlehem and Ramallah. The Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, says a lack of hope is feeding the despair of his people. He talked about the
(inaudible) during a news conference today.
MAHMOUD ABBAS, PALESTINIAN PRESIDENT: (As translated) I briefed her and the delegation about the situation in Palestine and the difficult and
unbearable circumstances our people are living under because of the continuous Israeli occupation to our homeland amidst the increasing settler
aggression that have led our youth to be pressured and desperate over the Israeli government's failure and the absence of any political future that
would provide hope of a fair and just peace.
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GORANI: All right, right now we're not talking about an all-out conflict. This is not a third intifada. We are seeing these lone wolf, these person
on person attacks. What is the reaction, how bad was it today? Oren Liebermann is in Jerusalem with the very latest.
Talk to us a little bit about what we saw today, Oren, in various parts of the country and the West Bank.
OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well important as you noted to point out that these are lone wolf attacks in many ways viewed as
unpredictable, unorganized. Jerusalem interestingly enough not the focus of these attacks, this violence, this tension although it is tensely quiet
here, it has been quiet. The focus today at least and perhaps even the last few days has been Hebron.
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LIEBERMANN: A very contentious city in the West Bank with a small minority of Israeli settlers amidst a much larger population of Palestinians. A holy
site there, holy to both Jews and Muslims. Two attacks today. Initially we'd reported a third attack, it seems unclear whether the second of the
incidents and I'll talk about this in it a moment was actually intentional.
But in the latest attack, the IDF says a Palestinian driver drove into a bus stop, injuring a solider and a civilian before that driver was shot and
killed at the scene.
Now to the one where there is a dispute or a question as to whether this was intentional.
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LIEBERMANN: Emergency services say, an Israeli settler, or an Israeli driver was driving in the West Bank near Hebron when his car was pelted by
stones, he got out of his car, A.P. photos show him wielding some sort of club right before -- a wooden club right before a driver of a West Bank
truck hits him. The IDF now investigating whether that driver hit him intentionally or whether this was a terrible accident as we see terrible
attacks and violence more and more here. Hala.
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GORANI: All right, well, so we'll see what comes out of that, but of course as we mentioned there at the top, Ban Ki-moon, the U.N. Secretary General,
we also heard from John Kerry, the U.S. Secretary of State trying to urge parties here to come to some sort of a solution. How is that being welcomed
in the region?
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LIEBERMANN: Well, I think there is a growing international effort here to get these two sides talking. You just heard it in right there in the lead-
in there, both sides making statements to us, making statements to the media, but not talking to each other. The question will they actually start
talking to each other and get some kind of dialogue? I don't think anyone right now is hopeful for a two state solution, although Ban Ki-moon says
that's the ultimate goal here.
But just to get these two sides talking instead of blaming each other, which is what we heard them both do, may help ease some of that tension,
prevent some of these attacks and at least restore some sense of calm here which is sorely lacking right now, Hala.
GORANO: But as we mentioned, this isn't an all-out conflict, these are individual attacks.
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GORANI: How are Israelis by and large -- what do they want to see their government do? Do they feel like pressures need to be eased or quite the
opposite, that there needs to be more of a crackdown on Palestinians in the West Bank for instance?
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LIEBERMANN: I think if you spoke with many Israelis right now, because of the unpredictable nature of these lone wolf attacks you would see a call
for more of these very heavy security restrictions we are seeing in place. There really is that sense of fear. We've walked round the old city of
Jerusalem and other parts of Jerusalem in the last few days and among the Israelis there is a sense of these attacks can come at any point, at any
time because they're uncoordinated and you're exactly right to point out this isn't part of a larger conflict. There's no war going on here and the
casualty numbers we're looking at don't come close to comparing to last summer's Gaza war. But the fear is still there and fear has led to very
heavy security restrictions around East Jerusalem and that's where Palestinians say Israel is simply using too much force, far too much force
they say and it is that force that creates the frustration that they say leads to some of these attacks.
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GORANI: All right. Oren Liebermann is live in Jerusalem, thank you very much.
The American and Russian military certainly don't agree on much. But now they're being forced to work together as their fighter jets fill the skies
over Syria.
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GORANI: They're running so many bombing missions over the country that they have now signed a Memorandum of Understanding to reduce the risks of the
two running into each other in the air. That is according to senior officials from the U.S. Defense Department. An agreement there possible
between the two countries, at least on that front.
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GORANI: In the next few minutes, China's President Xi Jinping will sit down to a banquet with Queen Elizabeth at Buckingham Palace. Britain's royals
and Britain's lawmakers have been giving Mr. Xi a very warm welcome as they court the country as a trade partner. But as CNN's Nima Elbagir reports,
there have been protests alongside the pageantry.
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NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: the Diamond Jubilee carriage, a 41-gun salute and both houses of the British parliament sitting
wrapped. A very warm and royal welcome for the Chinese President.
But there were some voices the pomp and ceremony couldn't drown out. President Xi Jinping supporters began lining the mall at 6:30 in the
morning; waiting patiently to wave their President past.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible) I saw my President, and the wife of the President and the Queen, it's so amazing.
ELBAGIR: But hidden amongst the frantically waving flags barely visible from the guild edge royal carriage, human rights activists stood patiently.
A reminder to President Xi of the controversy stirred by his government back home. And a reminder to the British Prime minister of the controversy
this visit has inflamed in the U.K.
The 18-year-old leader of Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement, Joshua Wong, is due for sentencing in court in Hong Kong next week. The risk of an
extended sentence didn't deter him though from flying to the U.K. Today.
JOSHUA WONG, HONG KONG PRO-DEMOCRACY ACTIVIST: The British government they always claim that they are concerned about the importance of democracy and
freedom. They get ignored and blind eyes on the human rights issue in Hong Kong and China.
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ELBAGIR: This state visit comes amidst what human rights organizations are characterizing as an ongoing state crackdown.
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ELBAGIR: And those who came to protest this visit here today said that they came because they didn't want those names to be forgotten. Names like that
of the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner Liu Xiaobo, who is currently serving an 11-year sentence for undermining state authority. Or that of Wang Yu who
is under house arrest, accused of inciting subversion.
At the heart of all this razzle-dazzle is a bid to create a strategic shift in anglo-sino relations to the tune of $46 billion. That's how much the
tranche of newly announced Chinese investment deals are worth. And yet more investment is hoped for.
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ELBAGIR: Perhaps that's why the Prince of Wales was among the first to meet with President Xi and his wife. A staunch supporter of the Dalai Lama,
Prince Charles won't be attending the official state banquet, but he has been careful to invite President Xi for tea.
Addressing the British Parliament, President Xi deployed quotes from both Shakespeare and Chinese proverbs, to reinforce the same message.
We are in this together. Both sides share it seems the same hope that this relationship will grow closer and more and more profitable.
Nima Elbagir, CNN, London.
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GORANI: You saw the President Xi Jinping and in about ten minutes we are expecting some speeches to start at that state banquet in honor of Xi
Jinping. But as you saw there in that report, not everyone in the United Kingdom happy about this visit.
A lot more to come tonight.
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GORANI: This man has defied the odds to become Canada's new leader. We'll tell you all you need to know about Justin Trudeau. Stay with us.
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GORANI: A stunning election result in Canada by this man. Justin Trudeau is now preparing to form the new government after he led his Liberal party to
absolute majority in parliament. It wasn't expected. He was actually third in the polls just a few months ago. Lynda Kinkade has more on the man who
will be Canada's first new leader in nearly ten years.
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JUSTIN TRUDEAU, CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER - DESIGNATE: I will make that vision a reality. I will be that Prime Minister.
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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Liberal party leader Justin Trudeau is now poised to become Canada's next Prime Minister. And while
largely unknown to the rest of the world, his name is familiar in Canadian politics.
Trudeau grew up in the limelight as the eldest son of former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau. He's a former high school teacher, a snowboard instructor;
he even acted in a movie about Canada's role in World War I before following in his father's political footsteps.
Since 2008 he has been a Member of Parliament, but never a traditional Politician. The 43-year-old sports a tattoo and once challenged a
Conservative senator to a televised boxing match for charity; and won. But his age and lack of experience has been a target for critics.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People being Prime Minister is not an entry level job.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nice hair though.
KINKADE: He's promised to bring more moderate values back to Canada after years of Conservative government under Stephen Harper struck a chord with
voters. Trudeau says he will end tax breaks for the wealthy, take on climate change, withdraw Canadian forces from the fight against ISIS and
legalize marijuana.
TRUDEAU: It's time for a change in this Country, my friends. A real change!
KINKADE: Married with three young children, Trudeau has drawn comparisons to John F. Kennedy. His supporters say he'll bring a touch of glamour,
youth and charisma to the Prime Minister's office. He returns to the home where he was born.
Lynda Kinkade, CNN.
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GORANI: Well let's go to a George Stroumboulopoulos he's a Canadian T.V. and radio host and joins us now live from Toronto.
So as I was telling our viewers, George, a few months ago, Justin Trudeau's party was third in the polls and this is a pretty stunning 180 for his
party and for him as a politician. How did he do it?
GEORGE STROUMBOULOPOULOS, CANADIAN T.V. AND RADIO HOST: Well, I think a couple of things. The thing number one, the former Prime Minister who's
leaving, Stephen Harper, called an eternal campaign.
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STROUMBOULOPOULOS: You give somebody over 70 days you run the risk of doing two things, a) letting your opponent develop momentum and b) just angering
the electorate.
In his (inaudible) went on forever but they kept saying that he's not ready, he's not ready. They kept running promos and what I think a lot of
people wondered was why wasn't the current government running on their record as opposed to spending so much time talking about a guy in third? It
meant that they were afraid of who he was and what he could be.
And at the end of the day while they were in third, the Liberal party are a pretty powerful force in this country. And in the previous election where
they got decimated and the New Democratic Party took over the official opposition position, that was a rare situation. That's never happened in
the past and it's an unlikely thing to happen again in the near future.
So it was third but they have been a (inaudible) national governing party of Canada, so it's not that big of a surprise. Although a majority this
morning, that's a big deal for people.
GORANI: Right, I was going to say and also Stephen Harper, four election victories. And by the way I like that in Canada, 70 days is an eternal
campaign, when in the United States, it's probably two years. They start campaigning two years into the Presidential term. So it sounds like that's
a lightning fast campaign by U.S. standards.
Let's talk about the man though, Justin Trudeau. We showed a little bit of - some of the images of him boxing, he's got the tattoo. Look, he's
undeniably a good looking guy. He's 43 years old, he's got the picture perfect family. Talk to us a little bit about this man, Justin Trudeau. The
son of the legendary Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.
STROUMBOULOPOULOS: Well, he has the most unique view of being a Prime Minister because he grew up in the official residence. So he's seen things
that new Prime Ministers are never going to be able to see. He has a lot of experience working in volunteerism, a lot of experience working with kids.
He has been an elected MP in the past and he's won difficult ridings as well, so he knows an awful lot about being a politician.
He is young, he does have all the things you talk about certainly. But what he is to a lot of people -- at least who voted for him is, he is kind of
like them. Except raised by a Prime Minister. In that he seems like a man of today and I spoke to a lot of voters on the street yesterday and they
said, well, you know what? The longest time they couldn't relate to any of the Prime Ministers. They don't think Justin is perfect, but they could
relate to him in a different way. He used the language that they used.
And he was called out to be a boxing match with a bit of a loud mouth former senator and if you were to review the tale of the tape, the senator
should have beat up Mr. Trudeau. But I'll tell you the thing that was more surprising than Justin in a majority government was the fact that he
whooped that guy in a boxing match.
So he's never actually - he's always undermined, he's never really taken seriously, and he just never loses it appears. So maybe he's just got that
-- his dad's touch.
GORANI: Right, well, if you're the underdog, you can really only do -- either meet expectations or actually beat expectations, right? You can
never disappoint. But I heard he has a party trick where he throws himself downstairs. Is that accurate?
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STROUMBOULOPOULOS: I'm not - I've never seen him throw himself down the stairs. I don't know if he's watched too many episodes of "The Wire" where
you try to get a pension earlier. But --
GORANI: I thought - I heard that in the Newsroom and I thought we need to fact check this with our guest.
STROUMBOULOPOULOS: We'll just tweet him and find out. You know, his biggest party trick is going to have to happen when he has to deal with this --
he's talking about a transparent government. He's talking about debating things like the GPP in the House of Commons. He has to deal with climate
change, the Asia pan summit he has to deal with going to Turkey for the G- 20 summit and all of that is in the next month and a half and he doesn't even have a cabinet yet. Undoubtedly he's prepared for some of this, but
he's got to get up to speed really quickly.
GORANI: And George, George, it's not just that. He's -- there's foreign policy. He wants to smooth over presumably relations with Iran. Climate
change you mentioned. Increasing taxes on the top earners. Decreasing taxes on middle class Canadians. Welcoming more Syrian refugees. That is a huge
to do list for a very young Prime Minister.
STROUMBOULOPOULOS: It really is. The good thing for him or lucky thing for Mr. Trudeau, is there are enough people within the infrastructure of that
party who know how to govern. He has a lot of new MPs so he's going to have to manage a lot of that as well. So he's going to do that kind of backyard
politics just to make sure that his MPs are on the same page.
But yes, he's got people in the party, it's an experienced party. They elected an MP called Ralph Goodale who know doubt will have an important
role in his government. He's definitely going to need that.
ISIS, the Keystone Pipeline. He has a lot to deal with. He seems to have a big plan. Again, we've heard promises before from newly elected Prime
Ministers, we'll see what Mr. Trudeau does.
GORANI: Well his real work starts now. George Stoumboulopoulos, thanks very much for joining us from Toronto. We really appreciate your time this
evening.
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GORANI: Coming up, a one out of ten that's apparently how easy it is to break into the account of the head of the CIA.
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GORANI: Our conversation with the alleged hacker is next.
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GORANI: Well, oops, a bit embarrassing, a big security breach -- potential security breach for a top U.S. Official.
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GORANI: Authorities are looking into reports that a personal e-mail account belonging to the head of the CIA John Brennan, was hacked, and account of
U.S. Homeland Security Secretary, Jeh Johnson and was also allegedly accessed illegally.
Our reporter Laurie Segall had and exclusive phone conversation with one or two of the alleged hackers -- two.
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LAURIE SEGALL, CNN INT. CORRESPONDENT: Two of the hackers - two of the hackers. Although they disguised the voice so they kind of blend in
together, they wanted to be seen as the CWA, so kind of in one umbrella.
GORANI: So they're claiming they hacked into John Brennan's account and Jeh Johnson's e-mail as well.
SEGALL: They are. And on this twitter account they're actually leaking what they say are documents from these in boxes. And I actually got them on the
phone. It took a while, but I was able to get them on the phone. They disguised their voice. And they spoke to me about why they did it and how
they did it. Take a listen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The United States Government fund Israel, and Israel they kill innocent people.
SEGALL: Can you give us any indication of your background? I mean how old you are, are you in the United States? I mean anything you can tell me
about yourself?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. I am below the age of 20 years old. I smoke pot. And I live in America.
SEGALL: And you smoke pot?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All day, every day.
SEGALL: So you think you might have hacked the director of the CIA while you were high?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Probably.
SEGALL: So are you sophisticated hackers?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would kind of put us like in the middle maybe. We're not like stupid. But we're not like really really smart people.
SEGALL: Do you guys worry about retribution?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to go to Russia and chill with Snowden. Because I know that the government are pretty mad about this. I'm probably
going to get tortured. I'm actually a pretty fast runner.
SEGALL: You plan to leak more information. Is there any specific target?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, the government and the police and the White House people. They're losers.
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SEGALL: And I will say this. I've interviewed a lot of cyber security folks, I've interviewed a lot of really, really good hackers. These guys
said we're not sophisticated. But we could still do this. We could still breach the CIA director's personal e-mail. And they told me that they
decided to do it in a day and they were able to do it. And I said on a scale of one to ten, how easy, they said it was a one. Which is pretty eye
opening.
GORANI: But what is - I mean what did they access exactly? Because this wasn't classified CIA information, right? Because it was his personal e-
mail?
SEGALL: His personal e-mail. They have social security numbers of people associated. They also said they were actually able to see the security
clearance forms from the CIA director. So they're able to see sensitive information. Nothing classified.
You know, when you actually look at it, how they did it is also very, very interesting. Because they kept telling me they did it by social
engineering. And what social engineering is and we're hearing more and more about it, is the ability to not to just have the technical skills to hack,
but actually call up a company and get them to give you information.
So they actually posed - they said that they posed as they were from Verizon. They called it Verizon, got personal information about the CIA
director. Then they were able to reset the password by calling up AOL. So it's actually having those people skills that made them pretty good here.
GORANI: Right, and that makes sense, although it took me about two days to get access to my own bank account when you're the legitimate owner, and
then two hackers get the CIA director's personal email.
But so this was a personal email account. Do we know what - I mean, are they going to release the documents? Will we see them? What are they going
to do - what were their plans here?
SEGALL: So far, and I actually just spoke with one of the hackers before I came on set and they said they plan to release more sensitive data. What we
know right now, is that this data isn't classified information. Some of it is call logs. Some of it is social security numbers. This is sensitive, but
this isn't classified.
They also told me that they plan to release a social security number of the CIA director's wife. Yes, so this is malicious activity. This isn't - this
is going to be a headache. This is also very embarrassing for the CIA.
You have the man that should not have his personal e-mail breached have his e-mail breached by guys that claim to be pot smokers who like to hack for a
cause.
So it's a reality check and we take a step back and we say, if these guys can do it, what does that say for the rest of government officials and they
told me that, you know, other government officials are vulnerable. And they said that they will be targeting them until they get raided.
GORANI: All right, Laurie Segall, risky business by the way for them if they get caught. I think they'll be in a world of trouble. Thanks very much
Laurie for joining us on that.
Still to come, getting to the roots of one of the longest running conflicts in the Middle East.
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GORANI: We hear both from Israelis and Palestinians about what is fueling the latest surge in violence.
And the force that broke the internet. We'll tell you why the new "Star Wars" trailer brought an early Christmas to movie theaters. We'll be right
back.
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GORANI: Welcome back. Your headlines, the U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki- moon is urging Israelis and Palestinians to step back from what he calls a dangerous abyss.
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GORANI: He's on an unannounced trip to the area meeting separately with Israeli and Palestinian leaders in an effort to try to calm weeks of
renewed violence.
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GORANI: The President of China, Xi Jinping, is attending a special banquet at Buckingham Palace. It should be happening right now according to the
official schedule, as he wraps up the first day of his first state visit to the U.K.
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GORANI: Here are some live images coming to us from Buckingham Palace in fact. And there you have guests arriving. Earlier in a rare address to both
houses of parliament he praised China and Britain's profound friendship.
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GORANI: Justin Trudeau is preparing to form the new Canadian government.
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GORANI: He led his Liberal party to a stunning election this week, denying Stephen Harper a fourth term as Prime Minister.
The 43 year old Trudeau will be Canada's first new leader in nearly ten years.
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GORANI: Former Paralympic star Oscar Pistorius is now serving the rest of his prison sentence under house arrest. He's out of prison.
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GORANI: He was transported from jail to his uncle's home in Pretoria on Monday. Pistorius spent about a year in prison for killing his girlfriend,
Reeva Steenkamp.
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GORANI: Turning now to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. We want to take a step back from the day's headlines and look at the roots of the latest
round of violence from both sides.
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Israel accuses Palestinian leaders of stirring up incitement over Jewish visitation to a Jerusalem holy site. For Palestinians though the grievances
go far deeper and are longer lasting. Many have lost hope after living under occupation for decades watching settlements expand and peace
negotiations fail. Time and time again.
Ben Wedeman has the Palestinian side of this story.
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BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Pull up your pants, pull up your T-shirt, turnaround show your I.D. That's the only way
residents of the East Jerusalem Palestinian neighborhood of Asawia can get to the center of the city. Under tough new security measures imposed by the
Israeli government in the wake of a spate of stabbing attacks.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly accused the Palestinian authority, Hamas and others of inciting the violence. But ask
the Palestinians at the check point what's behind it all and they seem to say the same thing. The Israeli occupation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (As translated) the occupation sleeps on our chests, on our stomachs says 63-year-old (Khalid Farook).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (As translated) says this woman, occupation is oppression. Oppression and subjugation.
WEDEMAN: Since the June 1967 war, more than half a million Israelis have settled in East Jerusalem and the West Bank often on confiscated
Palestinian land. Israel set up an extensive network of roadblocks and check points across the West Bank and now walls and concrete blocks have
gone up in East Jerusalem.
URI ZAKI, HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH: Occupation means that you have approximately 2.5 million Palestinians living for almost 50 years now under military
administration.
WEDEMAN: The Palestinian authority set up after the 1993 Oslo accords has little authority beyond the confines of Ramallah.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What occupation is the major incitement of the people, people want to live a normal life. They want to be free. I did nothing
wrong.
WEDEMAN: Former Palestinian authority minister (inaudible) warns that stopping the violence without addressing its causes won't cure the ills of
this unhappy land.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you have (inaudible) they think that (inaudible) can help you. It can be a -- been a relief for a short while. But it's not - it
will not cure you. You need - you need (inaudible) medicine to cure you and (inaudible) medicine near is the end of the occupation.
WEDEMAN: The clashes here in Hebron and elsewhere in the West Bank continue. The attacks on Israelis also continue.
But the last 30 years there have been two major Palestinian uprisings. Before, in between and after there have been many more flare-ups like this
one, going on right now. And in the absence of a final resolution to this problem, more flare-ups and more uprisings aren't likely, they're
inevitable. Expect more of the same only worse.
Ben Wedeman, CNN, Hebron, on the West Bank.
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GORANI: The Palestinian perspective. Let's get the Israeli perspective. The repeated stabbings and other attacks by Palestinians have left many people
on edge over the last several weeks. The Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has vowed to fight what he calls the wave of terror, saying its
root cause is not occupation, not settlements he says, but "the desire to destroy the state of Israel."
Our Phil Black visited a Jewish settlement deep inside the West Bank territory where people say they and not the Palestinians are the legitimate
residents of the land.
PHIL BLACK, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hebron is a sprawling city. Home to some 180,000 people. Almost all of them Palestinian. The
rest, a tiny fraction of the population, drawn here from around the world to fulfill a religious dream.
NOAM ARNON, JEWISH SETTLEMENT SPOKESMAN: Hebron is the beginning and the cradle and the root and the foundation of Jewish history.
BLACK: Noam Arnon is around one of 700 Jews who have settled here in the center of the city, located in the West Bank, territory Israel took from
Jordan during a war in 1967. It's why Palestinians and much of the international community consider this occupied territory.
Just out there, I mean there are so many people out there that view you and your community as occupiers. Are these people right when they say that you
are occupiers?
ARNON: Totally not. Totally not.
BLACK: Why not?
ARNON: Because Hebron was liberated by the state of Israel.
BLACK: The Israeli soldiers are still here, guarding the handful of streets that make up this isolated community. A recent video shows the tension that
comes with living here. A Palestinian man lies dead. Shot by a Jewish settler who said he was defending himself against a knife attack.
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BLACK: That inspired wider street clashes between Palestinians and the Israeli forces protecting the Jewish settlement. Jews blame the ongoing
violence on what they call an incitement machine, made up of mosques and politicians which they say train Palestinians to hate Jews. And they insist
it's not new.
ARNON: These are just some of the victims.
BLACK: Noam Arnon shows me a museum exhibit, dedicated to the massacre of 1929 when Palestinians turned on the local Jewish community, murdering 67
people.
ARNON: It happened right here against an innocent Jewish community. Forty years before this, the state of Israel was even established.
BLACK: There's been a lot of violence in Hebron since then notably here, a sacred site known to Jews as the tomb of the patriots. Burial place of the
biblical Abraham. It's important to Muslims too and in 1994, an Israeli Jew massacred 29 Muslims praying here.
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BLACK: There is a view that the violence is fueled by the total absence of negotiations. A peace process. Any viable hope of an end to this conflict,
the Jews of Hebron don't buy that at all.
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BLACK: Uri Karzen settled here more than 30 years ago and voices a theory widely held by many Jews. That Palestinian leaders use incitement and
violence to strengthening their hand in pursuing their goals.
URI KARZEN, JEWISH SETTLER: The attacks will continue if they think they're going to achieve -- going to achieve Palestinian state.
BLACK: The idea of a two state solution, Israel and Palestine as peaceful neighbors doesn't fly here either. Too much hate, too little land say the
settlers.
ARNON: Eventually we believe the Arabs will just have to get used to the idea that we're here to stay.
BLACK: Determination that will be met with more violence because these Jews and the Palestinians resisting them all believe their cause is just.
Phil Black, CNN, Hebron, in the West Bank.
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GORANI: Before we take a quick break, let's take you live to Buckingham Palace where a state dinner is getting underway.
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GORANI: The guest of honor of course, the Chinese President, Xi Jinping. This is Queen Elizabeth delivering a statement at this state dinner. It's
the first visit for Xi Jinping since taking office to the U.K.
And as you can see there, Britain really rolling out the red carpet. Various members of the royal family have been welcoming him. I caught a
glimpse of Prince William, the Duchess of Cambridge as well. And other members of the royal family. There's the Duchess of Cambridge, wearing a
tiara and sparkly red dress. That's your fashion check-in on the Duchess of Cambridge, Kate.
All right, we're going to take a quick break, we'll be right back, stay with us.
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GORANI: Welcome back. Come on admit it, at least some of you didn't think Donald Trump would hold on to the top spot in the Presidential polls this
long. Well of course those of you who thought that are completely wrong today, because two U.S. Republican Presidential candidates are breaking
away from the pack in a very significant way with about a week to go before their next debate.
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GORANI: The latest CNN ORC poll puts Donald Trump once again on top, 27%. Ben Carson is second, 22% of potential Republican voters say they would
vote for these two men. All the others by the way, Jeb Bush included, are in the single digits.
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GORANI: Let's go now to our senior political reporter, Stephen Collinson who is in Washington with more.
All right, so this is really solidifying Donald Trump's frontrunner status here. And he's not losing ground as this campaign progresses. How is he
maintaining this lead?
STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER: That's right, Hala. I mean all the people that regard themselves as smart observers of politics
in Washington have expected Donald Trump to start fading long before now and he hasn't.
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COLLINSON: If you think about it, he's been at the top of the polls for about four months. That's less than the amount of time that exists between
now and the first voting contest in Iowa and New Hampshire at the beginning of February. So people are starting in the Republican party to consider
what they would have thought was an impossible notion that Donald Trump actually could be competitive going into those contests and could actually
eventually emerge as the Republican Party's nominee.
That's something that would shatter the rules of politics, history, political logic. You know? But Trump doesn't seem to be going anywhere
right now.
GORANI: All right. Stephen, I apologize, I have to interrupt this live report to go back to Buckingham Palace. Where Queen Elizabeth is welcoming
President Xi Jinping of China. Rolling out the red carpet. And there is by the way the President addressing the guests at this state banquet. I
believe there -- there must be translators. Let's listen.
PRESIDENT XI JINPING: [Russian speaking].
GORANI: Are you still there? Stephen Collinson?
COLLINSON: Yes, I'm here - yes I'm here. Can you hear me?
GORANI: OK, sorry. Thanks for standing by. We don't have translation for President Xi Jinping. There's a lot going on tonight let's just.
COLLINSON: No worries. My Chinese isn't too good.
GORANI: Yes, mine isn't either. It's very rusty. Let's get back a little bit to U.S. Politics away from the United Kingdom and talk a little bit
about Joe Biden, the U.S. Vice President. The big question of course right now is he going to be run?
One U.S. Congressman from the Democratic Party told CNN the bid is "in motion." That is the expectation in the next few days, right?
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COLLINSON: Well, I have to tell you Hala, Washington is absolutely on tender hooks. Everyone you talk to want to know if you know anything about
whether Biden is going to run or not.
I think the truth is that Joe Biden might be the only person in Washington who actually knows what he's going to do. He's been through this long
process of deliberating whether he's going to run against Hillary Clinton. Remember, back in May, his son, his beloved son Beau died of brain cancer
and on his death bed pleaded with his father to run. That's one of the complications - that's one of the reasons this is taking Joe Biden so long.
We have expected for days now that he would soon have to jump into this race, simply because it just gets too late for him to mount a viable
campaign. We're on alert over the next few days. It's possible he could do something this week, if not in the coming weeks. Someone told me that it
could even be two weeks before he finally decides whether to get into this campaign.
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COLLINSON: But it's kind of frozen the political world on the Democratic side a little bit. Biden's calculations have been made a bit more difficult
because last week Hillary Clinton who has a had a rough summer with questions over her e-mail server and seen her popularity ratings go down.
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COLLINSON: Had a great performance in that presidential debate that was on CNN, the Democratic Presidential debate. So Biden's time seems to be
running short, but you know there's no real signal whether it will come today, tomorrow or later this week.
GORANI: All right, we'll have to wait. Stephen Collinson, thanks very much. Stephen is in Washington with the very latest on U.S. politics.
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GORANI: Back by the way to Buckingham Palace.
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GORANI: A state dinner is underway right now with the guest of honor, Chinese President Xi Jinping. I understand we have translation now.
JINPING: (As translated) .many achievements we will never remember -- forget that the United Kingdom had provided China with precious support and
assistance. A U.K. generalist had supported (inaudible) Chinese support fight against the Japanese and gave his life in the Second World War II.
There's a Chinese -- a Chinese native who had to rescue lots of U.K. war capturers from their deaths. After the new -- after the founding of the new
China, the new China signed a U.K. - (inaudible) new chapter. United Kingdom was the first to recognize China in the western world and the Queen
and her husband had waited for the China in the '90s to start a new period. And in 1997 Hong Kong was re-tendered to China.
In 2005 China and the U.K. had established a comprehensive strategic partnership, in many national and regional affairs we have maintained a
good relationship. Our development of our relationship will be benefited to our both countries and the benefit to the world.
Ladies and gentlemen and friends, now we are not afraid. We are in here the peace development - and when (inaudible) in this 21st century we -- all the
countries are interdependent in the way of becoming a common (inaudible) -- and this is 70 years of foundation of the United Nations. As a founder of
the United Nations, both China and the U.K. we have a responsibility, a worldwide responsibility, we are on the critical juncture and we need to
promote reform and development and the people's welfare.
The British has an old saying that wise people would capture an opportunity and change it into a bright future. And this is the second -- the first
year of the second decade of the strategic partnership between the two countries will make the -- China to have a much better future.
And now let me propose for the prosperity and the people's happiness of the United Kingdom for our long term friendship and to the majesty and his
highness, and to the house of all the royal members and to the house of all the people, let's raise our glasses.
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GORANI: All right. There you heard a little bit of the address of the Chinese President Xi Jinping. This is a state banquet. It's as fancy as it
gets at Buckingham Palace.
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There of course the Queen, Queen Elizabeth, was there. We also saw Prince William, Prince Philip. We also saw the Duchess of Cambridge, Kate wearing
her tiara, and a beautiful red dress. But notable by his absence, Prince Charles is missing the state banquet this evening so there's lots of
speculation, is it because of his support of the Dalai Lama.
There have been many critics as well of this visit saying there are human rights issues that need to be raised and it's not just about potential
trade deals, and agreements to be signed between the two countries.
But as you saw there, the United Kingdom is quite literally you might say with this Buckingham Palace banquet rolling out the red carpet for Xi
Jinping.
If you'd like to weigh in on the stories we have covered, go to facebook.com/Hala Gorani, CNN. Facebook.com/Hala Gorani. I always
appreciate your input.
Thanks for being with us this hour, I'll see you here tomorrow, same time, same place. Quest Means Business is next.
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