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HALA GORANI, HOST: Tonight, destruction across Pakistan and Afghanistan.

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GORANI: And the rumbling was felt hundreds of kilometers away as a massive earthquake rocked the region.

Then bringing order to chaos. European leaders announce a new plan designed to process refugees still flooding across the borders. Will it work?

Plus this. [ gunfire ] some dramatic video gives us a soldier's eye perspective of a rescue mission in Iraq. And later.

DANIEL CRAIG, ACTOR: [Video] We try to make the best movies we can, and that's all it is.

GORANI: Daniel Craig sounded modest on the red carpet, we'll hear what else he has to say about his process ahead of the latest James Bond premier here

in London.

We are on the red carpet, hello everyone, I'm Hala Gorani, live from CNN London, thanks to all of you for being with us. This is The World Right

Now.

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GORANI: We begin this hour in South Asia where a powerful earthquake is now blamed for more than 200 deaths in multiple countries.

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GORANI: So far, 154 people have been reported killed in Pakistan. In Afghanistan, 74 others, while at least one person has died in India.

Hundreds more are injured. The Afghan government says it has a three-phase response plan to carry out, but this is a government that is having a hard

time responding today-to-day problems let alone an actual disaster such as this one. Saima Mohsin reports.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 7.5 is a deadly earthquake. It's a monster.

SAIMA MOHSIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Scenes of devastation from Afghanistan. Buildings leveled, and homes reduced to rubble following

Monday's massive earthquake. Among those killed, 12 young girls. They died as a stampede to escape their school building in northern Afghanistan.

The quake struck near the city near the city of Jarm, near the Afghanistan/Pakistan border but was felt in cities hundreds of kilometers

away. Aftershocks continue to shake the capital of Kabul, and residents remain on edge.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It definitely threw a lot of people into panic. Especially because it seemed to go for a lot longer than the normal jolts

that we would sometimes get.

MOHSIN: In Afghan cities like Jalalabad, hospitals are overrun with the injured. Across the border in Pakistan, an emergency's been declared at

hospitals in Peshawar. Dozens have died there. But that number is likely to increase.

The Military and National Disaster Management Authority has been activated. Buildings also shook in India, sending office workers into the streets. The

quake was felt as far away as Tajikistan, people in the capital there also seeking safety outdoors.

With communications down, little is known about the fate of rural communities where the quake was centered.

UNNI KRISHNAN,PLAN INTERNATIONAL: It is very difficult terrain. So to get information and to get aid to some of the remote affected areas is going to

be difficult.

MOHSIN: The last time a quake of this magnitude struck the region ten years ago, more than 80,000 people were killed.

Saima Mohsin, CNN.

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GORANI: Well, of course they keep streaming in; refugees desperate to flee war zones, to flee poverty as well. European leaders have come under a lot

of criticism for not harmonizing their response at the Europe-wide level. So today they are saying, we've finally come up with a solution. But will

the measures be enough? Here's Atika Shubert.

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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It is now known as the Balkan route, the trek which typically begins in Greece proceeds across

Eastern Europe. From Macedonia up through Serbia, Croatia, and here in Slovenia. A collar of people walking through the fields, guided by border

police to a refugee registration center. Over the last ten days, 70,000 refugees have entered Slovenia alone as they seek a detour into Europe,

around Hungary's closed borders. Now EU leaders say they have a 17-point plan to tackle the crisis.

JEAN-CLAUDE JUNCKER, EUROPEAN COMMISSION PRESIDENT: Sufficient temporary accommodations must be (inaudible) along the (inaudible). We will increase

reception capacities to 100,000 places in Greece and the western borders. I commend the Greek Prime Minister for his commitment to increase reception

capacity in Greece to 30,000 places by the end of this year, with the UN (inaudible) to help provide at least 20,000 more places in Greece with the

financial support of the others.

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SHUBERT: In theory, that will mean a more coordinated system to get refugees into Europe legally, assigned to a country that will accept them.

But refugees will not be able to pick and choose where they want to go. And while Syrians and Eritreans will have their applications fast-tracked,

there are plenty of asylum seekers that may face deportation. This man came from Sierra Leone.

ISMAIL (SIERRA LEONE ASYLUM SEEKER): You know the world should find a better way to help people than this way. You know a lot of people struggled

to come to here, through the water, you know, the weather, a long journey, the walk. Some people lose their life. To come through to Europe.

SHUBERT: With this plan the EU is promising to better manage the borders from Greece to Slovenia, not to shut the door to Europe, but to bring order

to chaos redirecting the flow of asylum seekers into registration centers.

But with winter coming, the key will be getting refugees registered and assigned quickly or risk a bottleneck of thousands out in the open this

time in freezing conditions.

Atika Shubert, CNN, Berlin.

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GORANI: And it is getting colder indeed.

Now to something completely different and it's been in the news a lot getting a lot of reaction online because frankly it's bad news if you enjoy

a good sausage or a bacon sandwich, or even a hot dog.

The World Health Organization is saying that eating processed meats can cause cancer. Even unprocessed red meat might be carcinogenic. Meat

industry groups unsurprisingly disagree. Some calling the report misleading, Frederick Pleitgen has more.

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FREDERICK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT. Despite the potentially devastating news, Duncan Baker from the Parsons Nose Butcher

Shop in London remains unfazed. He says he hopes the World Health Organization's warning that processed and red meat are dangerous won't

deter his customers.

DUNCAN BAKER, BUTCHER: Are we in fear what have we eat? You know do we - do we step out the front door? We fear of death crossing the road, it's --

where do we draw the line?

PLEITGEN: A research division of the World Health Organization found that processed meat, like bacon, sausages, and cold cuts cause cancer, and that

eating red meat like beef probably causes cancer. The panel's leading scientist says the findings could change dietary recommendations around the

world.

DR. DANA LOOMIS, RESEARCHER, INTERNATIONAL AGENCY FOR RESEARCH ON CANCER: These findings reinforce existing dietary guidelines from a number of

health authorities, including the World Health Organization. That is the people who eat meat should consider reducing their consumption to reduce

their risk of several diseases, including cancer.

PLEITGEN: The WHO study says consuming around 50 grams of processed meat per day increases the risk of colon cancer by 18%. And placed process meat

in the top category for cancerous substances which also includes cigarettes, alcohol, arsenic, and even asbestos.

But the study has its critics as well. The North American Meat Institute, an industry interest group calls them conclusions "dramatic and alarmist

overreach." And Robert Pickard, a member of Great Britain's Meat Advisory Panel says consumers should know that red meat does have health benefits.

ROBERT PICKARD, MEAT ADVISORY PANEL: Red meat is a particularly nutritious item of food. We don't need large quantities it of it, but if we add a

little bit of liver to a meat recipe, then that will deliver, in a small quantity all the vitamins and minerals that a human being needs.

PLEITGEN: The WHO study does not recommend abstaining from processed or red meat, but its director says its consumption should be limited. Advice that

the London butcher, Duncan Baker, believes consumers should indeed heed, saying it's better to eat meat that's high in quality, but moderate in

amounts.

Fred Pleitgen, CNN, London.

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GORANI: Still to come tonight, bombs rain down on targets inside Syria.

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GORANI: And the most intense day of air strikes since Russia's campaign began. What will the Kremlin's next move be?

Plus fascinating insight into a rescue mission in Iraq. You'll see the raid from the perspective of the soldier's carrying it out. We'll be right back.

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GORANI: Well, it is the most intense day of air strikes since Russia launched its bombing campaign last month over Syria.

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GORANI: The Defense Ministry is saying that its war planes struck 94 targets in Syria just in the last 24 hours. And it comes after it announced

that it was willing to help the free Syrian army fight ISIS. A spokesperson for the rebel group said Monday though they are skeptical of Russia's

intentions.

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GORANI: He said they'd only accept the offer if Moscow stops attacking them and ends its support for the Syrian President. Not sure if the second

request will be granted. The violence of course once again is forcing more people to flee to Turkey every day. That's where we find our Nick Paton

Walsh in Gazientep, near the border with Syria.

Nick, we were reporting on the huge numbers of Syrian refugees arriving in Europe, but also of course what is happening with the Russian air strikes

is pushing more and more of them into turkey.

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well actually Hala, with the numbers we're getting from the United Nations suggest are

doubling, more than a doubling of people displaced inside of Syria. Now it's hard for many of those to leave to Turkey, but last year, the U.N.

were giving a number of 50,000 for the area affected by the recent upsurge in Russian air strikes, coupled with Syrian regime advance with Iranian

fighters too backing them up.

Now they're saying, the U.N. that it's now 120,000 people displaced in the areas around Aleppo, Idlib, and Hamas since early October roughly when the

Russian air strikes began.

Of course there's also been a rebel counteroffensive that they announced over the weekend trying to push back into southern Aleppo, northern Hamas

area. A lot of violence there, and I think many realizing rather than the decisive move by the Russian and Iranian forces here, with the Syrian

regime as well, they're actually seeing a continued battle, an escalation in violence, Hala. But at this stage too, many are looking towards northern

Iraq -- sorry, carry on.

GORANI: Yes, I was -- we were just going to get to that Russian potentially involvement in Iraq by Russia. But, what we were talking to our viewers

about as well was this dramatic video there captured from the vantage point of a U.S. soldier of an army raid, or a military raid in Iraq. Talk to us

about that.

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WALSH: Well, it's rare that you get to see inside the secretive world of U.S. Special Forces, but that is exactly what people got. A front line

seat, sadly to violence that while it freed 70 it led to the loss of life of one U.S. soldier, captured on the helmet camera of a Kurdish soldier,

remarkable pictures of how close the front line those American and Kurdish commanders were together.

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WALSH: You're now right inside the jailbreak that revealed America's changed the role in Iraq. They think they're rescuing Kurds from this ISIS

jail, but look who staggers out. Terrified Iraqis. Even their eyes lit up by fear caught on the Kurdish soldier's helmet camera. It's edited but U.S.

officials tell CNN, it's genuine.

More cells opened it seems, and the Iraqi soldier and civilian hostages keep coming. An office an ISIS flag, more cells, and perhaps a target

through the light of the door. Then, a quick close-up, likely of an American commander.

Don't be afraid, he cries as they search the prisoners. Remember, they were expecting Kurds, perhaps, these men are ISIS have guns or bombs. It's the

Americans who seem in charge here. The captor's relief palpable U.S. officials saying they faced imminent execution.

It's unclear when before or after this footage the Americans here learned one of their own was gunned down. But their mission went on to rescue 70.

That first combat death since 2011 in Iraq, forcing public acknowledgment, American commandos were now boots on the ground.

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WALSH: The Pentagon Hala, have also released a video of the air strike that swiftly followed the withdrawal of American and Kurdish commandos from that

compound that they assaulted, destroying it entirely.

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WALSH: The pentagon also saying that in fact they anticipated the release of this video. And you have to since here, to some degree while there was a

loss of life in their number that occurred we understand before that footage was taken, the Pentagon have perhaps used this moment and used this

footage to show close to the front this rescue operation American commando's. It marked the public acknowledgment of a change in tactics

really on the ground for them and perhaps this is a way of an information operation perhaps explaining to the American public quite why American

commandos get so close to the front line here, Hala.

GORANI: Certainly a dramatic video an interesting vantage point.

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GORANI: We mentioned Russia there at the beginning, now Russia has authorized military action in the skies over Iraq, is that significant at

this stage?

WALSH: Well, we've yet to see action. The Iranian officials suggesting it may come at some point soon.

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WALSH: But I think this marks a series of moves, that it's also Russia's information operation to some degree, as though Syria needed anything more

to complexity its conflict and to perform a cold war powers, trying to outdo each other day by day. But the Russians have also today found free

Syrian army who they have offered assistance to to some degree have pretty much outright objected it saying that we're simply not going to even

contemplate that until the Russians give up their main, real policy, which is supporting the Assad regime.

Also, confusing reports in the last hours or so that in fact the Deputy Foreign Minister of Russia met with certain free Syrian representatives in

his words in Moscow. He didn't name them, unclear who they are and the free Syrian army and other opposition figures immediately rejecting that

out of hand as nonsense.

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WALSH: So, a complex series of statements from the Russians here. They're clearly trying to show they have various fingers in various pies, various

hands. Do we imminently see air strikes into Iraq as being suggested? Unclear at this stage. A lot of what the Russian officials seem to do in

part is being -- put around misinformation, and we often have to see quite through their actions what precise policy they're pursuing, Hala.

GORANI: All right. We'll see. Those are questions we have for many of those intervening in that part of the world.

Nick Paton Walsh, thanks very much, he's in Gaziantep, our senior international correspondent and all this week by the way, our newest senior

international correspondent, Clarissa Ward, brings us a series of reports from the front lines inside of northern Syria, take a look.

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CLARISSA WARD, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: In northern Syria, these Kurdish fighters at the core of the latest U.S. plan to defeat ISIS.

They have the courage, but will that be enough?

I'm Clarissa Ward, my reports from inside Syria coming up on CNN.

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GORANI: Well in our first report CNN visits an area newly liberated from ISIS, still vulnerable though. You will not to want miss that. You'll see

it on the program tomorrow. This is The World Right Now, coming up, Daniel Craig is back as the British superspy. We're live at the royal premier in

London, stay with us.

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GORANI: He's known as a high octane superspy, he's known of course for his womanizing ways, it's gotten a bit more PC over the years, but still, and

then there's his love of martinis, shaken, not stirred, of course, yes, James Bond is back. Spectre, the latest film in the wildly successful

franchise is having its premier in London.

Let's cross life to our very own Max Foster who was and is still on the red carpet and was there for the celeb arrivals. And you got to speak with

Daniel Craig, Max.

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MAX FOSTER: I did indeed, the red carpet's not going to be here much longer. The film is being playing out and everything is being torn up

behind me just to explain all of the noise.

Daniel Craig, he doesn't really give away much in these interviews. He just keeps saying he wants the viewers to decide. But there's a lot of pressure

really. He co-produced this movie.

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FOSTER: And also, the last one was so successful both critically and commercially. The question is can he manage it again and still develop the

genre, not upset people who really sort of are true to those original Ian Flemming novels?

So, I asked him whether or not he thinks that this can top the last movie. Certainly the critics like it, but it's whether or not it does well in the

box office. And it needs to, Hala, because it cost an awful lot to make.

DANIEL CRAIG, ACTOR: I'll let you decide about that. I mean I just - we just set out to make the best movie we could. We had a wonderful -- so much

wonderful success with Skyfall, that you know you've got to use that momentum and you've got to - you've got to try and do better, that's it.

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FOSTER: And as you've done it more, are you able to define the sort of bond that you're creating, or want to create?

CRAIG: One would hope so.

FOSTER: How would you define it?

CRAIG: Oh, I can't do that.

FOSTER: Go on.

CRAIG: Not hear on the red carpet. Look I just try -- we just try and make the best movies we can, that's all it is.

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FOSTER: He worked very close with Sam Mendez on this, the director, and he told me that he wants to be true to the original novels, develop a new type

of Bond. So many of the actors haven't even seen the movie before tonight, so they're seeing it for the first time tonight.

Also Sam Smith who wrote the theme song, he was quite nervous going in.

So it's a big test for tonight to see if it goes well at the premier, Hala, but also much more importantly, whether or not the wider world, who now get

a chance to see it also like it and will pay for the tickets.

GORANI: Well it's finally out. I feel for you, he's not an easy interview. Like you can tell that he first of all, doesn't give long answers which

sometimes is a blessing, and sometimes makes it difficult. He doesn't seem easy to talk to, am I right in saying that?

FOSTER: Yes. And he's sort of looking at you, waiting for you - waiting to hear your question. You know in a sort of unnerving way as well. You kind

of think that he's Bond, because he really is convincing. I watched it last night, and it is a really epic movie.

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FOSTER: I mean the scale of it is intense and he is really sort of captivating in it, but you know it comes out in the interviews as well.

Anyway, I got away with it.

GORANI: Quickly, I know there's going to be, I think, from what I understand, there's going to be another bond in two years, is he signed up

to be Bond in the next film.

FOSTER: He won't be drawn, but Sam Mendez says he doesn't think he's going to do another one. I think that probably will play into whether or not

Daniel Craig does as well because he does see that partnership as really important.

He won't be drawn on it, he keeps sort of criticizing the role in a way but I think that's because he's under all this media pressure right now. Maybe,

you know, next year when he's had time to think about it, and it goes down well, if it goes down well, then maybe he'll think about it again.

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GORANI: All right, Max Foster on the red carpet which they are literally rolling back up behind him. Thanks very much.

FOSTER: I better get out of the way.

GORANI: Live in London for us. Yes, they'll roll you right into it. This is The World Right Now, coming up.

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GORANI: A warning over processed meat. We speak to the North American Meat Institute after the World Health Organization says foods like bacon and hot

dogs could increase your risk of cancer, we'll have that coming up.

Also ahead, a tragic story, five tourists are dead after a whale-watching boat capsizes off Canada's West Coast. We are live with that report, coming

up.

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GORANI: A look at our top stories. A powerful 7.5 magnitude earthquake has killed at least 229 people in south Asia.

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GORANI: 4,000 homes severely damaged or entirely destroyed. Many of the areas in the mountainous region are prone to landslides and that could of

course threaten more lives.

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GORANI: Also among our top stories, European Foreign Ministers met behind closed doors today, trying to work out an ambitious plan to deal with that

influx of refugees they've been promising it for a while.

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GORANI: But they are saying that they have some new measures planned, including opening up an additional 100,000 spaces in migrant reception

centers.

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GORANI: Russia says that its war planes bombed 94 targets in Syria in the past day alone, and that's a record by the way if you're keeping track.

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GORANI: The Defense Ministry says the attacks destroyed both ISIS and other "terrorist facilities." Russia describes this latest round as the most

intense 24-hour period of air strikes since its own campaign began last month. Alongside the United States, and its allies.

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GORANI: Now, search efforts are ongoing off Canada's west coast after five British tourists died when a whale-watching boat capsized.

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GORANI: 21 people were rescued from the frigid waters off Tofino in British Columbia. One person remains missing.

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GORANI: Let's turn to a story we brought you earlier. A report on the impact of eating processed meat, it concerns many of with us, at least all

non-vegetarians, every once in a while we'll have sausage or a hot dog or some sort of processed meat in a sandwich. But the World Health

Organization is saying it is probably not good for you.

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GORANI: Processed meat was classified as a carcinogenic to humans based on sufficient evidence in humans that the consumption of processed meat causes

colorectal cancer. This is according to the WHO.

Some organizations are not responding well to that finding, unsurprisingly.

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GORANI: Let's go live to Washington. I'm joined by Janet Riley, Senior Vice President of Public Affairs for the North American Meat Institute. Janet

Riley, thanks for being with us. So.

JANET RILEY, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT PUBLIC AFFAIRS, NORTH AMERICAN MEAT INSTITUTE: Thanks for having me.

GORANI: This has been headline news all over the world, it concerns pretty much every country. There is a lot of meat consumption in Western Europe

and in other parts of the world. Your organization is saying this is untrue. On what do you base that?

RILEY: Well, if you - if you read what (IARK) sent to the Lancet today, they themselves admit that the research they looked at was very, very

mixed. Yes, they found some studies that associated meat and cancer, but they found many others that did not. So usually when you've got that kind

of mixed evidence, you don't take this huge leap and issue the warnings that they did today.

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GORANI: Right, but these are doctors, these are medical professionals, they've spent a long time studying the relationship, they believe between

certain types of processed meat, not all meats, but processed meats and the increased incidents of cancer in some patients. So do you - do you concede

that there is an increased link at all based on what you've read?

RILEY: I don't concede that at all. The vast majority of the literature shows that a balanced diet is actually the way to go. And what's really

interesting is that the Mediterranean diet, people who followed that widely hailed diet eat twice as many process meats as people do in the U.S. for

example when we follow a typical pattern here. And when you think about Spain and Italy and France where the enjoy all the cured meats, and hams

and pates, they have some of the longest life expectancies in the world. So I think consumers should be reassured by that.

GORANI: I actually don't know the statistic, I mean, you're bringing it to my attention, but what about the idea of saying it's good to eat meat,

there are certain benefits to eating meat to our health, but you really need to eat in moderation. Which I believe is really the conclusion of that

report. They're not saying don't eat any meat, they're just saying well listen, you've just got to be careful. It can be dangerous. Do you believe

that there's some truth to that?

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RILEY: Well I think all things should be consumed in moderation. But the point is that, at least here in North America, we're consuming the

recommended amounts. In the U.S. the protein category is the only category that's consumed at proper levels. And meat in particular is one of the most

nutrient-dense sources of protein, it's got the best and most absorbable form of iron, complete protein, all the b vitamins, zinc, and so any

theoretical risk is outweighed dramatically by the nutrition benefits that meat offers in a balanced diet.

GORANI: But do you think, for instance, I don't know the idea of putting labels on meat products on processed meat products saying, this is the

recommended daily dose, you know, if you exceed it for instance you should be careful. I mean is this something that should be done on all foods

including meat?

RILEY: Well all meat products are regulated and inspected by USDA, and they carry a nutrition label that talk about nutrients and what percent of your

recommended daily allowance those products provide.

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RILEY: So much of that information is already there. I think that when it comes to a serious and complex issue like cancer, consumers need to look to

their personal physicians to assess what actions they should take. But in general, the vast majority, the literature, including a paper from Dr.

David Clairefeld of the Department of Agriculture who actually sat on this panel and published a paper in 2015, he looked at all the evidence and his

own paper said that a balanced diet is the best way to go. And I am very reassured by that and I hope others are to.

GORANI: But you must be, I know you are reassured by that, but you must be worried on some level that when these reports make headlines in the way

this report did, it was front page news pretty much everywhere here in the U.K. where we are. You must be concerned that that's going to impact how

people view meat and meat consumption?

RILEY: Sure. Any time we hear some kind of a concern raised about the products we sell, you know, it does concern us, we want people to have

faith and confidence. But from what we can see in the social media's space and in reaction, comments on news articles that have appeared today,

consumers seem to be exercising a healthy dose of skepticism and talking very much about common sense about what they know to be true from their

personal experience and it's the same experience I have. I've raised two boys, and today my son took a salami sandwich in his lunchbox like he does

most days and this report changes none of my feelings about the nutrition of meat. I remain confident and I hope others will too when they're able to

really establish the full facts.

GORANI: Well, I think if the son of the Senior Vice President of Public Affairs for the North American Meat Institute stopped eating meat, I'd

start getting a little bit worried. Thanks very much, Janet Riley.

RILEY: You'd be grounded.

GORANI: Yes. We really appreciate your time reacting to this WHO report. Thanks for being with us.

RILEY: Thank you.

GORANI: And if you'd like to weigh in as well, you can go to facebook.com/Halagoranicnn. We're going to post some of our better

interviews and the stories we covered today. Facebook.com/halagoranicnn.

All right. When we come back, still to come -

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GORANI: Remembering a soldier turned statesman who lost his life trying to forge a lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians. It was a different

era back then.

And then a bitter harvest, how olive trees are often at the very center of a struggle for land in the west bank.

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GORANI: Well from war hero to soldier to peace, Israelis are remembering a Prime Minister who paid the ultimate price for pursuing a final agreement

with the Palestinians.

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GORANI: As I was saying before, it certainly was a different era 20 years ago. And it has been 20 years since Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by a

Jewish extremist at a peace rally in Tel Aviv.

Israel is holding commemorations all week in his honor. Rabin's daughter spoke at a ceremony today sounding very discouraged about the current

situation.

DALIA RABIN, DAUGHTER OF SLAIM FOMER PRIME MINISTER, YITZHAK RABIN: (As translated) I have no good news to tell you. There is no political process.

There is terrorism and blood is being shed once more. And hatred is on the rise, and I have no other country. And yet, my country has changed its

face.

GORANI: Yitzhak Rabin negotiated the Oslo accords with Yasser Arafat in 1993, there's that iconic handshake in Washington. And both won the Nobel

Peace Prize for their efforts which ultimately of course unraveled.

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GORANI: No olive trees are traditional a symbol of peace but in the West Bank, they're often at the center of violence. The U.N. has documented the

destruction of thousands of Palestinian olive trees by Jewish settlers, sometimes Palestinian farmers themselves come under attack along with

volunteers trying to ensure a peaceful harvest. Ben Wedeman has that story.

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BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Armed with a knife a masked man kicks and punches Rabbi Arik Asherman on a West Bank hillside

near the Jewish settlement of (inaudible).

Over the years, the Rabbi Asherman has had many run-ins with settlers, he heads a group called Rabbis for Human Rights which bring volunteers to help

Palestinian farmers harvest their olives.

ARIK ASHERMAN, RABBI FOR HUMAN RIGHTS: I think we have, of course, maybe the most, the government most supportive of the settlers ever. And I think

that gives the message to settlers and other Israelis who have that violent tendency that they can get away with things.

WEDEMAN: Israeli police are investigating the incident. Nearly 400,000 Israelis have settled throughout the West Bank, their settlement often on

or near land where Palestinians have cultivated olive trees for generations.

The settlers claim they're attacked and harassed by Palestinians, what isn't in dispute is that the olive harvest is yet another time when

tensions flair. The troubles that come with the annual olive harvest go to the very heart of this conflict, yes, religion does play a part in it, but

at its very essence, it's all about control of the land.

London resident David Amos comes to the West Bank village of (inaudible) every year to help in the harvest. And last week, another masked settler

beat him with stones during the harvest. Israeli police acknowledge that with the recent rise in tensions, there've been dozens of attacks on

Palestinians in the West Bank.

[16:45:05] DAVID AMOS, BRITISH VOLUNTEER: Because I'm British, because I'm an international, then there's news. It makes me ashamed. So that makes me

angry.

WEDEMAN: (Inaudible) witnessed the beating and complains that many such attacks happen under the eyes of the Israeli army.

We're surrounded by the army and settlements he says and the settlers are protected by the army, they don't come without them.

(inaudible) brought his wife and son and other relatives to the olive grove in the shadow of an Israeli settlement. He insists, despite regular

harassment, he's not going anywhere. Where can we go, he asks, we aren't going to leave our village, we aren't going to give up our land, and the

only way we'll leave is if you shoot me and bury me here.

This year's olive harvest is expected to be average, but as always, one tinged with bitterness.

Ben Wedeman, CNN, (inaudible) on the West Bank.

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GORANI: Coming up, the latest in the race for the White House.

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GORANI: Donald Trump's brash and bold style is helping him in the polls. That's for sure. But is it hurting the business mogul's brand? That's just

ahead.

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GORANI: He can't quite say he's taking off the gloves, but Hillary Clinton's main Democratic challenger for President is now showing a more

aggressive side on the campaign trial.

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GORANI: Bernie Sanders took multiple jabs at Clinton without mentioning her by name at a Democratic fundraising dinner over the weekend. He drew

repeated contrasts including their opposing votes on the Iraq war suggesting that she is politically expedient.

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BERNIE SANDERS, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It gives me no joy to tell you that much of what I predicted about Iraq turned out to be right.

Doesn't give me any joy at all. But that was a tough vote, I came to that fork in the road, and I took the right road, even though it was not popular

at that time.

GORANI: Clinton also spoke at the dinner, she seized on earlier remarks by Sanders that "all the shouting in the world" would not help resolve gun

violence.

HILLARY CLINTON, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I've been told to stop shouting about ending gun violence, well, I haven't been shouting, but

sometimes when a woman speaks out, some people think it's shouting. But, I won't be silenced, and I hope you won't be either.

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GORANI: The Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump has no problem speaking his mind and voters seem to love it. But are his brash comments on

the campaign trail actually hurting the businessman's brand? Samuel Burke takes a look.

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SAMUEL BURKE, CNN MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: The Trump Building, the Trump Towers, Trump Soho, everywhere you look in New York City, you see the Trump

name.

But now Trump, the candidate may be hurting Trump the brand. Numbers from the marketing arm group show Trump's taking a real hit. Aspiration,

influence, trust, every single metric marketers use to measure a brand's value has now dropped for Trump.

PAUL WILLIAMS, THE MARKETING ARM: You really look at those as key indicators of whether or not you want to partner with that particular

celebrity or that particular talent.

DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're bringing drugs, they're

bringing crime, they're rapists --

BURKE: Those comments in Trump's announcement speech immediately damaged the entertainment side of the Trump portfolio. Under pressure from Hispanic

groups, Trump was quickly out as host of Celebrity Apprentice. Then NBC dumped airings of the Trump co-owned Miss Universe and Miss USA Pageants as

did Univision.

Trump's golf enterprise wasn't immune either. The PGA pulled out of the grand slam tournament in L.A. Now other parts of Trump's portfolio could be

affected by the his no filter comments on the campaign trail. Trump real estate, the Trump Hotel Collection, and Trump International Realty.

PETER SHANKMAN, MARKETING AND BRAND CONSULTANT: Once that brand takes a hit, as it's starting to do in this campaign, that's when his brand eats in

trouble, and that's when it can affect his business.

BURKE: This all comes at the same time Trump's condos are losing their shine in the New York luxury market. New York real estate blog, The Real

Deal with the headline, Trump's buildings are losers.

ALAN LIGHFELDT, STREETEASY: What we found is that units within Trump buildings are hold their value, but they're not growing in value as

comparable nearby luxury buildings.

BURKE: Even though buildings in Manhattan with the Trump name have gone up in value 60% on average over the past 10 years, Streeteasy.com data shows

similar buildings without the Trump name, up nearly 70%.

SHANKEMAN: If he continues down this path of running for President and keeps on alienating people, and keeps on insulting people, and responding

to things with anger, if he does not win, there are going to be a lot of people coming out of their woodwork looking for their time and revenge.

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GORANI: And Samuel joins me now. Let's talk about the monetary hit to the portfolio. I mean could we measure this?

BURKE: So so far it looks like there hasn't been an actual monetary hit.

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BURKE: But what all these brand experts told me is that if Donald Trump loses, or if he pulls out, which is a big if, then he'd have to go back to

relying on that brand, and remember, his brand is more important to him than many other businessmen. Because he e doesn't actually build so much of

what has his name, he just puts his name on it. So that brand value is incredibly important to him. So it's only once he's off the campaign trail

that all this money could have an effect. Although Hala, even though his brand numbers may be done, sales for the Donald Trump Halloween mask are

actually soaring.

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BURKE: My journalism mentor told me never put a funny hat on television, I think this counts for that, but I'm just going to do it anyway. Sales

appear to be going through the roof, all over the United States, along with --

GORANI: Now do you understand why we always told you not to wear a funny hat? Now do you understand?

BURKE: Now I get it - now I get it.

GORANI: I like how you were muffled through the - through the - through the rubber mask. But yes.

BURKE: Donald Trump --

GORANI: So the sales of the mask, doing well.

BURKE: Sales of the mask - but he -- unfortunately for him, he's not getting any cut of the profit. But sales of Donald Trump mask, Caitlin

Jenner, and El Chapo from Mexico, and speaking of Mexico, I know the sales of the pinatas of Donald Trump are soaring through the roof as well.

GORANI: But Caitlin Jenner, that caused some controversy because aren't some stores refusing to stock Caitlin Jenner costumes?

BURKE: Some people think that it's politically incorrect. But come on, she's doing a reality show about her new existence, so why not do a mask

about it? But one thing you might find interesting, Hala, the women up in the make-up room here at CNN New York said it doesn't have enough orange so

they wouldn't call it an accurate depiction.

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GORANI: All right. It does need to be just a little bit more sienna kind of -- yes, I can see - I can see because you know he has a different kind of

hue there. Thanks very much. Samuel Burke, do you have a costume? Are you into Halloween?

BURKE: I'm into Halloween, I'm thinking of going as Hala Gorani this year in honor of Caitlin Jenner.

GORANI: I don't know how you would - how you would put that costume together. Anyway, send us a picture. Samuel, thanks very much.

Finally tonight, a Brazilian prisoner is back behind bars after a Halloween-inspired escape (inaudible).

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GORANI: The 44-year-old tried to make it out of prison disguised as an old woman. He wore a dress, and wore a mask in an effort to blend in with

relatives of prisoners and frankly it looks very good. I've got to say. The inmate was unmasked by guards before he could escape. Good try though. A

for effort. But back in the slammer.

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GORANI: This has been The World Right Now, I'm Hala Gorani, Quest Means Business is next.

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