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Sanders Bests Clinton To Win West Virginia; Clinton Forced To Split Focus Between Sanders And Trump; Fallon: State Races In Battlegrounds Will Be Tight; Brazil's President Faces Impeachment Vote; Almost 100 Killed In Series Of Baghdad Attacks; Painkiller Use On The Rise Across U.S.; Brazil's Senate Debates Rousseff Impeachment; Elizabeth Warren in War of Words with Donald Trump; Queen Elizabeth Critical of Chinese on Video. Aired 3-4p ET
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HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm Hala Gorani. A busy hour ahead. We are coming to you live from CNN London. Thanks for
being with us. This is THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.
Well, Bernie Sanders is having another moment, or as his loyal supporters say, the Democratic presidential candidate is "feeling the Bern." Sanders
scored big over frontrunner, Hillary Clinton in West Virginia Tuesday, and he says he is staying in the race despite Clinton's big delegate lead.
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BERNIE SANDERS (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And let me be as clear as I can be, we are in this campaign to win the Democratic nomination.
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GORANI: Well, you can see how far Clinton is leading in the delegate count so quite the challenge for Bernie Sanders. She's at 2,235 delegates
against 1,466 for Sanders. But do Sanders' recent wins force Clinton to split her focus between him and Donald Trump?
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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You could not imagine a more different vision for our country than the one between our side of Democrats
for progress, for prosperity, for fairness and opportunity, than the presumptive nominee on the Republican side.
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GORANI: Hillary Clinton's senior political correspondent Stephen Collinson is following the Democratic race from Washington with more.
Let's talk a little bit about what this means, a West Virginia win for Bernie Sanders. What does it mean for the Hillary Clinton campaign? Is
this going to be a big distraction for her?
STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS SENIOR ENTERPRISE REPORTER: I think it's somewhat of an embarrassment for Hillary Clinton that she still hasn't
really put away the Democratic nomination, especially as we've seen Donald Trump confirmed as the presumptive Republican nominee.
But really, we've seen Hillary Clinton over the past few weeks, she's not really concentrating on Bernie Sanders anymore and there is a good reason
for that. It is that he doesn't have a viable path to the nomination.
There are simply not enough delegates left for him to overtake Hillary Clinton. The only chance he's got is persuading superdelegates, who are a
bunch of party officials and lawmakers who have a vote at the convention to turn away from Hillary Clinton and to vote for him.
It just doesn't seem a very realistic prospect. I think what Bernie Sanders is doing though is vowing to fight on, he's going to maximize the
power of his political movement and his influence on the platform of the Democratic Party and the way the party develops going forward.
It is clear he's already moved the party to the left and moved Hillary Clinton to the left. That's why he's staying in this race right until the
end. The last primary is June 7th in California and New Jersey.
And I think then we will actually see Hillary Clinton get over the top. But Bernie Sanders is going to stay in the race until then.
GORANI: All right. We know, also, that the Clinton campaign is not calling on him to drop out. By the way, these are some live campaigning
images coming to us from the Bernie Sanders campaign addressing supporters in Montana.
But now that Hillary Clinton is at least trying to focus all of her attention on Trump, there is some polls that are -- must be a little bit
worrying for her campaign.
For one thing, there is a nation wade poll from Reuters/IPSOS putting her very close, only one point apart with Donald Trump.
And in Ohio, which is a key swing state, every single president who's won has won Ohio since 1960. And against Trump in a Quinnipiac poll, Clinton
is actually trailing, 43 to 39. I mean, this has to be worrying for her.
COLLINSON: I think it is definitely worrying for some Democrats. We are six months away from the election. I think there is a case to be made that
Donald Trump becoming the presumptive nominee is putting a little bit of bounce in polls and polls this far out don't tend to really tell you the
full story.
But let's face it, this is a divided nation, pretty much split 50-50 politically. States like Ohio, the swing states that go between Democrats
and Republicans in each election.
[15:05:03]The end result in Ohio is probably going to be 4 percent difference between the Republican and the Democrat, whoever the nominees
are. So I don't think it is a surprise necessarily that it's close.
GORANI: Sorry to jump in, I guess my point is that, just a few months ago you had many experts and pundits say Donald Trump's not going to get the
nomination. And then after that, you said if he gets the nomination, many said, he's not going to win against Hillary Clinton.
Now we're seeing polls -- and I realize we're six months out -- where they're much closer than anyone had anticipated. I guess the question is,
why are observers and experts getting it wrong? Why are they not able to predict Trump's rise and successes in the polls and with voters?
COLLINSON: You're exactly right that Donald Trump -- no one saw him as a serious candidate back six months ago and he a he completely confounded all
the predictions.
The problem for Donald Trump though is that with the key demographic groups that are going to decide this election, women voters, Hispanic voters, and
minorities, he's not doing very well.
The primary electorate is much smaller and less diverse than the general electorate. So we will see these polls in which it's a close race and I
would expect it to continue to be so.
But there are also polls, for example, Georgia which has been a Republican state for decades, Hillary Clinton is actually leading Donald Trump down
there. So it is a very mixed-up political map.
I don't think we're going to see the true picture emerge until we both have two nominees who are going at each other day by day.
But I think we're going to see swing states, six, seven or eight states, which are going to be very close and they are going to decide this
election, even if many people don't think Donald Trump is a very viable general election candidate.
GORANI: All right, Stephen Collinson, thanks very much. Always a pleasure. Clinton at least publicly is focusing on Trump. So how does she
feel about Bernie Sanders staying in the race? I asked is her press secretary, Brian Fallon.
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BRIAN FALLON, PRESS SECRETARY, HILLARY FOR AMERICA: We think that him remaining in the race is a good thing. He has every right to continue all
the way through the last contest in the middle of June at the District of Columbia.
He said he intends to remain in the race until that time and we would not fault him in the least for doing so. Obviously if you look back in
history, 2008, Hillary Clinton stayed in until the very end against Senator Obama, now President Obama.
So we would be the last people to call on him to consider getting out of the race. But I think that at the end of this by virtue of him staying in
the race he'll continue to bring voters into the Democratic Party. It will just strengthen our footing going into a general election.
GORANI: So you're not concerned by the West Virginia and other wins. What about some of the polls we're seeing? Reuters/IPSOS poll nationwide
pitting Donald Trump against Hillary Clinton neck and neck, 40 percent for Donald Trump, 41 percent for Hillary Clinton, 19 percent undecided. This
as much closer than is comfortable for your campaign, isn't it?
FALLON: So this poll is very close. I've seen some other polls that have Hillary Clinton with a stronger lead. I think that the polls are going to
fluctuate.
The fundamentals of the race though are pretty set and we know that Donald Trump is going to be entering this general election with historically high
negatives with key voting groups including women, African-American voters, and Latino voters.
And right now, his standing is such that it's hard to imagine a pathway for him to win. That said, we know these contests that are held in each state
that will determine the Electoral College decision when we vote next November.
We know that these state contests are going to probably be close wire to wire. The rule in general elections here in the United States is that the
race is close. That's the rule, not the exception.
Even in 2012 where President Obama ended up from an Electoral College standpoint really winning in a landslide compared to Mitt Romney. It never
felt that way. It was close throughout.
GORANI: Did you ever anticipate that Donald Trump would in any poll, first of all, be the nominee for the Republican Party and he is the presumptive
nominee now, but be as close as he is in polls like this.
In Ohio, there is even a Quinnipiac poll that puts Hillary Clinton behind Donald Trump in this important swing state that has chosen the winner every
time since 1960.
FALLON: Well, we know that Donald Trump is going to make a big play in some of the Midwestern states like Ohio, like Michigan, like Pennsylvania.
GORANI: But it is an essential state for you. It is essential to win it and right now, it is not looking at all like a done deal.
FALLON: Well, it's definitely not a done deal and we don't take anything for granted. We know that these state races are going to be tight. Like I
said, the polling in all these battlegrounds is going to be probably tight all the way through the general election.
That said, Donald Trump has a big task in front of him because if you look at the map for the last few cycles, it's been Democrats that have been
growing the map and turning more states blue.
Donald Trump is going to have to win some states that Barack Obama carried not just once but twice. He says he's going to focus on the Midwestern
states.
But if you look at the way that we ran our campaign in Ohio during the primary against Senator Sanders, Senator Sanders was attempting to run to
Hillary Clinton's left.
He was attacking her on trade issues, trying to appeal to that manufacturing base, blue-collar workers in Ohio. We ended up winning the
state of Ohio.
[15:10:08]And not just overall, but even in exit polls if you look at voters who said trade was a top concern, Hillary Clinton won those voters,
55-44.
We know Donald Trump will try to run similar lines of attack against Hillary Clinton on issues like trade as Bernie Sanders did, but I think
that if you look at what happened in that Ohio primary that shows that Hillary Clinton's strength in a state like Ohio cannot be underestimated.
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GORANI: All right, there you have it, Brian Fallon is the press secretary for Hillary Clinton's campaign. Interesting numbers. Certainly something
that was difficult to predict just a few weeks ago that there would be so little daylight between some of these numbers, between Hillary Clinton and
Donald Trump in some of the polling especially in swing states like Ohio.
GORANI: Now, back to the U.K., Sadiq Khan has been grabbing a lot of headlines for being London's fist Muslim mayor. So how can the city's
newly elected leader get even more attention? Have Donald Trump mention you in his presidential campaign.
That's exactly what happened when Trump said he'd make Khan a, quote, "exception" to his Muslim ban. Sadiq Khan sat down with our chief
international correspondent, Christiane Amanpour and he hit back at the Republican candidate. Listen.
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SADIQ KHAN, LONDON MAYOR: London has chosen hope over fear. I'm really proud that London chose unity over division. And my message to Donald
Trump and his team is that your views of Islam are ignorant.
It is possible to be a Muslim and to live in the west. It is possible to be a Muslim and to love America. I've got family members who are American.
We've often been to America on holiday. My kids used to love to Disneyland. I'm scared of some of the rides.
I've been there as a minister. For Donald Trump to say Mayor Khan can be allowed, but not the rest is ridiculous because there are business people
here who happen to be Muslim.
There are young people here who want to study in America happen to be Muslim. There are people here who want to go to America who happened to be
Muslim and around the world. By giving the impression Islam and the west are incompatible, you are playing into the hands of extremists.
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: You've said that you actually want to do business and go and learn from an exchange
ideas with mayors of great American cities like in New York or Chicago. Would you go under a Donald Trump presidency?
KHAN: I'm not sure if he will allow me to go because members of my entourage are Muslim. It is not just about me. It is about the message it
sends from the greatest country in the world and what is the story of America. I think Donald Trump doesn't get the history of America.
My point with respect to Americans is, look. I think you've got a choice when it comes to the elections in November, a choice of hope or fear, a
choice of unity over division. You have a choice of somebody's trying to divide not just your communities in America, but divide America from the
rest of the world.
I think that's not the America that I know and love. So of course I'll travel to America, but I'm hoping that he's not the guy that wins.
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GORANI: Sadiq Khan is the new mayor of London speaking to Christiane Amanpour. We'll get back to the race for the White House in about half-an-
hour.
There is quite a spat going on, on Twitter between prominent Democrat Elizabeth Warren, darling of the left leaning Democrats, or wing of the
Democratic Party that's more left leaning, and Donald Trump so you will want to stay tuned for that.
Now to Brazil, it is decision day there for the embattled president, Dilma Rousseff. Right now, the Senate is debating whether to proceed with an
impeachment trial. They'll put that to a vote in a few hours.
If the motion is approved, Rouseff will be forced to stand down for 180 days, but the Brazilian leader remains defiant. She says she will fight
using all means at her disposal.
Shasta Darlington is in Brasilia, the capital, with the very latest. So Shasta, explain to us exactly what's going on and what it could lead to.
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Hala, we're here at the Senate. The session started a bit late this morning and it is looking like
it could drag on. We have seen Rousseff and her supporters really pull out a whole new arsenal, if you will, appealing to the Supreme Court.
There have been protests, people burning tires. But I don't think there just isn't much doubt in anybody's mind that this is really the beginning
of the end.
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DARLINGTON (voice-over): Dilma Rousseff, once a popular Brazilian president, the first female to hold that office. Now facing possible
impeachment. Rousseff grew up in an upper middle class family from southeastern Brazil.
Following a coup in 1964, a teenaged Rousseff joined the resistance movement against the military dictatorship. In 1970, she was arrested by
government forces, jailed and tortured by her captors.
[15:15:07]When the charismatic leader of the Workers Party, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, was elected in 2003, Rouseff was appointed minister of mines
and energy and was chair of the state run oil company, Petrobras.
In his second term, Lula da Silva groomed her to be his successor. In 2010, Rouseff won the presidential election with 56 percent of the vote.
Her approval rating soared to nearly 80 percent by 2013.
But a year later with the economy tanking and Petrobras in the midst of a giant corruption scandal, she just barely won re-election. In the
meantime, dozens of politicians in her party and coalition were charged for bribes and money laundering amounting to billions of dollars.
Lula da Silva was called in for questioning. Rouseff wasn't implicated in the probe, but millions have taken to the streets demanding she step down
protesting institutional corruption and economic woes.
Now she's likely to face an impeachment trial for allegedly manipulating the federal budget to hide a shortfall ahead of 2014 elections. In an
exclusive interview, CNN's Christiane Amanpour asked Rouseff if she thinks she'll survive.
DILMA ROUSSEFF, BRAZILIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): I wish to tell you one thing. More than just thinking that I will survive, I will fight
to survive. Not just for my term in office, but I will fight because what I'm advocating and defending is a Democratic principle that governs
political place in Brazil.
Who found the impeachment process against me? All of them are being charged for corruption charges, especially speaker of the House. My life
was turned upside down. They looked everywhere to find something against me, and there is no corruption charge at all against me.
DARLINGTON: But in the meantime, her vice president, Michel Temer, is already waiting in the wings ready to take over as soon as the Senate
approves the impeachment motion.
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DARLINGTON: Now with these senators going on and really delivering long speeches, we may not have the result of the vote until tomorrow morning.
But this is just a question of hours, Hala.
We expect Vice President Michel Temer to be assuming the interim presidency by the end of the week. We are really looking at the end of an era for
Brazil's first female president and also for the Workers Party, which has been in power for 13 years -- Hala.
GORANI: All right, Shasta Darlington, thanks very much. Sixty eight out of 81 lawmakers asked to address the Senate. They each have 15 minutes.
They are taking a break for lunch. They are taking a break for dinner. This may go on for a while. Thanks for the update.
After a quick break, the cause of Prince's untimely death remains unclear. However, investigators are clearly focusing on painkillers found on his
body.
Up next, we'll take a closer look at prescription addiction, a problem millions of people are battling all over the world. Our Dr. Sanjay Gupta
joins me next.
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GORANI: It is now nighttime in Baghdad after a day of extreme violence once again. A series of ISIS attacks killed a staggering number of people.
Many as so often the case, innocent Iraqis going about their everyday lives as they are trying to.
CNN's Arwa Damon has been following developments in Turkey. Arwa's reported extensively from Iraq and she looks at why violence again appears
to be on the rise.
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ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Around 100 people lost their lives in Baghdad today. Many more were wounded in a series of
attacks. Deadliest of which happened in the sprawling Shia slum of Sadr City. It is home to around a million people, a very impoverished part of
the capital.
And that explosion was as a result of a car bomb, according to security officials, going off in a very crowded marketplace. That attack was very
quickly claimed by ISIS, and then later on in the day, in the evening, two more attacks.
Both of them carried out by suicide bombers, both of them also going after Shia targets, and they, too, claimed by the terrorist organization.
We have been seeing over the last few weeks and months an uptick in attacks against these so-called soft targets -- markets, mosques, the civilian
population -- attacks that ISIS has claimed responsibility for.
This is something that we have been hearing some U.S. military and other officials say is a sign of ISIS weakening, saying that it is because of the
pressure ISIS is feeling as a result of the ongoing offensive by the Iraqi security forces, of course heavily backed by coalition air power and other
coalition support.
But ISIS has time and time again proven itself to be an entity that is capable of morphing and continuing to target the civilian population. This
not necessarily a sign of organization weakening, per se, although it is losing some ground.
But perhaps just another incarnation and way of it to continue to carry out its deadly violence. Is also a group that is very well aware of the fact
that it can easily exploit the ongoing sectarian tensions and deep fissures that continue to exist in Iraq. Arwa Damon, CNN, Istanbul.
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GORANI: Efforts to understand why Prince died seem to be focusing on opioids. Investigators are looking at one doctor, Michael Schulenburg. A
search warrant revealed Schulenburg saw the singer twice, including the day before his death, and wrote to Prince a prescription.
We are waiting on results from Prince's autopsy. It could take several more weeks. A law enforcement source says opioids were found on his body,
painkillers.
Now morphine, oxycodone, those are all brand names and names for highly addictive painkillers. And they are widely prescribed, not just in the
United States but in many countries where you are watching us from as well, western countries in particular.
CNN's own Dr. Sanjay Gupta is here with more on what has become an epidemic in some parts of the United States ahead of the special "AC 360" town hall,
"Prescription Addiction Made In The USA."
Dr. Gupta, thanks for being with us. First of all, let's talk a little bit about what these new revelations concerning the investigation into Prince's
death might tell us into what could have happened here.
SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's really very early still, Hala. It is not a surprise that the DEA, the Drug Enforcement
Agency in the United States is looking into everything. They are looking into Prince's medical records, into probably any doctor who may have
treated him over the past days, weeks, and months.
And they're going to try and put these pieces of the puzzle together. We are hearing about this one doctor who apparently even on the day of
Prince's death was going to Prince's home to deliver some test results.
We don't know what those test results were for or what specifically this prescriptions this doctor was even giving him. What they want to try and
figure out is does it all make sense.
Does the medical records match what Prince may have been taking or not, was he getting medications from any other doctors? Were there other people who
were giving him their medications?
Again, we don't know if any of that has happened but those are the questions the DEA is trying to figure out.
GORANI: We still need many more answers. Let's talk a little bit about painkillers in general because your special is on the opioid -- painkiller
addiction in much parts of the United States that it is becoming quite a problem.
Of course, it exists as well in many western countries where doctors prescribe painkillers sometimes very powerful painkillers and that also may
lead to addiction issues. Why are painkillers so potentially addictive?
[15:25:04]GUPTA: Well, you know, when you give painkillers, these opiates, as they are called, you are basically removing the body's ability to make
its own opiates, its own endorphins, sort of the hormones the body creates naturally.
You take the bills and the body says I don't have to make these endorphins anymore on my own. The problem is when you stop taking the pills the body
essentially crashes, it doesn't have its own natural production.
It doesn't have it from the pills anymore and that is a miserable feeling. At some point, it is more that the person wants to keep taking the pills
not to necessarily even get high but to just not feel miserable. And that's essentially what physical dependence is. That can lead to
addiction.
GORANI: How much of a problem is it in the United States?
GUPTA: It's amazing when you look at that graph up there right now, Hala, 95 percent really of the entire world's consumption you see in those three
areas. But I'll take it a step further and say if the United States, 80 percent -- literally 80 percent of the world's pain pills are consume in
the United States.
We are 5 percent of the world's population, 80 percent of the world's pain pills and the numbers speak for themselves. People die every 19 minutes,
on average.
It is now the number one cause of preventable death in the United States today. More than car accidents. More than anything else. Accidental
opiate overdoses, it is tragic and horrifying statistic.
GORANI: That's really interesting. I had never heard that statistic. I was completely unaware of that. I would have guessed car accidents,
certainly. We've all had minor operations, we've all been prescribed pain medication.
I remember for the removal of my wisdom teeth being prescribed in the post- operative period, very powerful pain meds. I thought to myself, should this have been prescribed. I mean, are they being overprescribed? Is that
a fair question here?
GUPTA: It's absolutely a fair question and the question is absolutely, yes. I mean, we are definitely overprescribing these medications. Look, I
do think the American doctors -- I say this, Hala, as an American doctor myself, but I do think the American doctors --
GORANI: We're not pointing fingers is what I'm trying to say, but it's become a common course of action. Not just in the U.S. but also in western
countries. Yes.
GUPTA: Yes. No, but I think the doctors do have to shoulder much of the blame here. I think that there are very small studies some 30 years ago
that somehow suggested -- they weren't good studies, they were small studies -- but they suggested you could take as much of this stuff you
wanted, you were not going to get addicted, there was no risk of overdose.
And we know that none of that is true, Hala. You can become addicted and overdose from, but I think probably the medical community as a whole didn't
ask enough questions, weren't skeptical enough.
Look, it is easier to prescribe a pill than to do the work of getting a patient into physical therapy, getting them nerve blocks, getting them over
types of therapies that could potentially alleviate their pain in a safer way.
There is a lot of blame to go around, but the United States, in this particular case, has had a perverse amount of consumption when it comes to
this particular thing and we are paying dearly for it.
GORANI: OK. Well, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, we all look forward to your special, the dangerous rise of these drugs. Sanjay Gupta and Anderson Cooper are
hosting a live CNN town hall, "Prescription Addiction Made In The USA." That will air on CNN International at 2:00 a.m. in London and further
repeats in the following days. Thanks, Sanjay.
Next on THE WORLD RIGHT NOW, Elizabeth Warren's war on Donald Trump. The Democratic senator is letting the world know how she feels about the
Republican on Twitter. And she is landing some serious zingers.
And this state visit was considered a success. But Queen Elizabeth apparently has some criticism. We'll unpack the queen's comment about the
rude Chinese delegation and comments that may not have been intended for public consumption. We'll be right back.
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GORANI: Welcome back. A look at our top stories; Brazil's senate is debating the fate of the country's President Dilma Rousseff.
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GORANI: Senators plan to vote in a matter of hours whether she should be impeached. They're making their case on the senate floor right now. The
embattled leader remains defiant vowing to fight with all her strength.
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GORANI: Among other top stories we're following, a series of ISIS attacks have killed almost 100 people in Baghdad.
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GORANI: The Bloodbath started with the car bomb at a market in the Iraqi capital earlier today, it was followed by two suicide attacks across the
city.
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GORANI: Queen Elizabeth was overheard saying Chinese officials were "very rude" during their visit to the U.K. last year.
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GORANI: Her remarks were caught on camera during a garden party on Tuesday. China's foreign ministry says its delegation put forth a great effort to
make the visit successful.
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GORANI: Let's get back now to the race for the White House. One of the names being tossed around as a potential running mate for Hillary Clinton
is Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren. And conveniently, Warren has already declared war on Donald Trump, on twitter. Here's Randi Kaye with
that.
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RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Democrat Elizabeth Warren taking on Donald Trump in 140 characters or less. The Massachusetts Senator using words like
lame, weak and bully to describe the Republican candidate.
The twitter spat dates back to May 3rd after Trump won the Indiana primary and became the presumptive nominee. Warren promising to fight her heart out
to make sure Donald Trump's toxic stew of hatred and insecurity never reaches the White House.
Trump couldn't let that slide blasting Warren on twitter three days later writing, "I hope corrupt Hillary Clinton chooses goofy Elizabeth Warren as
her running mate. I will defeat them both."
One minute later he slammed warren again, this time bringing up her heritage, a controversy going back to her 2012 senate campaign. Trump
tweeting "let's properly check goofy Elizabeth Warren's records to see if she is native American. I say she is a fraud." Warren has long defended her
native American heritage even after Republican opponent, Scott Brown accused her of making it up to get ahead in her career.
Seconds later this - "goofy Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton's flunky, has a career that is totally based on a lie. She is not native American." A
while later this, "Goofy Elizabeth Warren and her phony native American heritage are on a twitter rant. She's too easy. I'm driving her nuts."
But was he really driving her nuts? Warren certainly did not back down. In fact, she took to twitter again unleashing a firestorm, accusing Trump of
lying his way through the primaries without being held accountable, and putting him on notice those days are over.
First, she called his tweets lame. Then this in response to him calling her goofy Elizabeth Warren. "Goofy @realdonaldtrump? For a guy with the best
words, that's a pretty lame nickname. Weak."
Within 13 minutes Warren fired off 11 tweets aimed at Trump calling him a bully who has a single play in his playbook -- offensive lies thrown at
anyone who calls him out. Another saying "He spews insults and lies because he can't have an honest conversation about his dangerous vision for
America." Warren continued. "You can beat a bully not by tucking tail and running but by holding your ground. If you think recycling Scott Brown's
hate-filled attacks on my family is going to shut me up @realdonaldtrump, think again, buddy. Weak."
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KAYE: Her rant ended at 8:49 p.m. with this doozy. "Whatever @realdonaldtrump says, we won't shut up, we won't back down. This election
is too important and he won't step foot in White House."
Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.
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GORANI: CNN political analyst Josh Rogin joins me now from Washington. So Elizabeth Warren's name is being floated as a possible VP pick for Hillary
Clinton, how likely is that?
JOSH ROGIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well the best thing that she can do to increase those chances is become the sort of Donald Trump attack dog.
That's a good fit role for a Vice President and a good role for someone who wants to become Vice President.
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ROGIN: Actually it's impossible to tell exactly where she is in the vetting, but she has some strong pluses and strong minuses. Her main plus
is that she represents and is loved by the Bernie Sanders wing of the party. She's got credibility with the people that Hillary Clinton will need
to bring along when her primary fight is over.
On the negative side, she doesn't really bring Hillary Clinton a state, she doesn't really add any real diversity for the ticket so a lot of
conventional wisdom says that Hillary will choose a senator or a governor from a swing state that she needs to get to the delegate count she needs.
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GORANI: Because swing states like Ohio might become problematic for Hillary Clinton. Just a few weeks ago it would have been difficult to predict the
poll such as the one Quinnipiac came out with putting Donald Trump ahead of Hillary Clinton in that very important swing state that has picked the
Presidential winner every election since 1960.
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ROGIN: Right. And this -- these polls this far out are a snapshot of voter opinion.
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ROGIN: But we can watch the trends and what the trends show is that the presidential race between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump will not be
quite as far apart as we think it will. It will probably be a very close race as most Presidential races are.
What that means is that Hillary Clinton now has to go back and look over the map and decide where to focus her resources. It also means she is more
eager to pivot to the general election which is why Bernie Sanders continued wins, including his win yesterday in West Virginia, propose such
a pesky problem for the Clinton campaign.
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ROGIN: They don't want to devote resources -- go ahead.
GORANI: Yes. That makes sense. No. and I spoke to the Press Secretary for the Hillary Clinton campaign, Brian Fallon, who said, no, absolutely not,
we welcome Bernie Sanders remaining in the race. It makes the party stronger. We'll have a united party at the end of it. We won't be like the
Republicans with this fractured party with Donald Trump being so right now the presumptive nominee.
He's saying that but it has to be an issue right? She would have wanted this locked up weeks ago.
ROGIN: Right, I mean let's just compare those statements with what the Hillary Clinton campaign has done on the ground if the last two days.
They've deployed Bill Clinton to Kentucky and the Virgin Islands. That's a clear play for delegates considering the Virgin Islands doesn't actually
vote in the general election.
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ROGIN: They've started putting ads back on air against Bernie Sanders in Kentucky. That's money that they're spending. You want to know what a
campaign prioritizes? Look at where they spend their money. So both things can be true. They can be openly supportive of Bernie staying in but really
want him to get out secretly.
GORANI: Well certainly they don't want to alienate his support base because they're going to need that in the general election.
ROGIN: That's right - yes, that's right. That's the balancing act they are trying to play. So what they do is they introduce specific policies,
Hillary Clinton rolled out a child care affordability policy. Right, so that's a play to appeal to Bernie voters but not really get too far to the
left that she can't swing back when the general election comes. That's a tough thread -- needle to thread, but that's the situation they're in.
GORANI: Absolutely. Yes, I was going to let you finish your thought but I have one last question regarding overall the hypothetical Trump/Clinton
match-up.
Now just a few months ago it was difficult to imagine that Donald Trump would become quite so easily the presumptive nominee for the Republican
Party. Just a few weeks ago it would have been difficult to imagine that in a nationwide poll, Trump and Hillary Clinton would only be one percentage
point apart. So going forward, it's become virtually impossible to predict this race. Right? I mean it's just become one -- it's just been one
surprise after the other.
ROGIN: Yes. Most analysts come down is that -
GORANI: No, he's back.
ROGIN: Oh, you still have me, OK?
GORANI: I think we have some technical issues -- right. I don't know what happened with that question but it blew a fuse somewhere in D.C. Oh, there
you are. OK, Josh.
ROGIN: Here I am. Yes, so maybe that was Donald Trump trying to prevent this answer. But the bottom line here is that the Trump campaign knows that
it is going to be close. The Hillary campaign knows that it's going to be close. That's why organization counts. Right? And that's why you see Trump
in Washington this week trying to get Republican establishment and the RNC on board. He needs the money. He needs their infrastructure. He needs their
data. So if it's going to be close, you don't want to give up any enforces errors.
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ROGIN: So Trump's going to try to unify the party in Washington this week. Hillary is going to try to wrap up her primary so they can both focus on
the big issue which - (inaudible) soon.
GORANI: All right. And Jos Rogin, I'm sure we'll have more to talk about in the weeks and months ahead. It's been fascinating as an outside observer -
ROGIN: Absolutely.
GORANI: Yes, absolutely, an outside observer of this race that's been so unpredictable practically every step of the way. Josh, always a pleasure,
thanks very much for joining us.
ROGIN: Likewise, thank you.
GORANI: And don't forget you can get all the latest news, interviews and analysis on our facebook page. Facebook.com/halagoranicnn.
This is the "World Right Now."
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GORANI: As a diplomatic spat sparks in the most unlikely place, a royal garden party. We'll discuss the Queen's controversial comment heard round
the world.
And shocking pictures from outside an English football ground. We'll tell you what happened to Manchester United's team bus ahead of a crucial game.
Stay with us.
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GORANI: So, was it a casual comment or a proper diplomatic incident? It is a fine line when the person voicing the opinion is the Queen of England.
Take a listen and watch this piece of video that was shot at a garden party on Tuesday.
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GORANI: All right, there you have it, you heard Queen Elizabeth II there discussing the state visit by Chinese officials back in October. This is
video from that state dinner event.
Her conversation with the police commander was caught on camera and was caught on the mic, importantly, at that garden party. It is making
diplomatic plays. China by the way, just so you know, in China, people are not seeing us right now. They're probably not hearing anything we're saying
because this is what happens when we discuss this story in China, the screen goes blank.
They issued a statement though saying the trip was hugely successful. Was it a gaffe or is the Queen finally sharing more of her personal thoughts
publicly?
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GORANI: Let's get more from our royal correspondent Roya Nikkhah, she's here in London in the studio.
So we were discussing in it the break, the Queen is a professional. She knows everything about cameras following her. She's followed by the same
camera person around at all her events. I mean was this a gaffe? Did she not know that this mic was on and it would pick up her conversation?
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ROYA NIKKHAH, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: It's very hard to know. I don't think it was a gaffe. Peter Wilkinson follows her around everywhere, he's
always two steps behind her, she's aware of that. The issue is sometimes we see - we see the pictures without the sound and other times we get the
sound. And I don't think she will always know when we're going to hear words. So she might not have known that the words she was saying were being
recorded and would be released to the rest of the media. That said the Queen very rarely expresses an opinion in public unless she wants it to be
heard.
GORANI: Right. But even if she thought this audio wouldn't be released, she was still surrounded by many people. And she was speaking very frankly with
Lucy Dorsey, the head of security during that Chinese visit. So she knew that she would be overheard clearly, at the very least.
NIKKHAH: Not only that, not only was she talking you know widely to guests at the garden party, but there was a royal press (inaudible) there covering
it.
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NIKKHAH: They go and speak to guests, anyone the Queen speaks to they go and speak to immediately afterwards. So to have kept that under wraps, she
would have to have not said it, she knew what she was saying.
GORANI: So why now though? Why express a public - publically such a controversial opinion that it could be regarded as slightly undiplomatic
especially coming from the monarch.
NIKKHAH: Well, I think it's really interesting, a lot of people say this is a diplomatic gaffe but actually I think it's a bit of a diplomatic coo for
her because to all intents and purposes what the public saw last October from the state visit was pomp, pageantry, handshakes, multi-million pound
deals being done between China and Britain. But there's no sense at all to the public that things were slightly tense, very tense.
But as it turns out, things were very tense with not only the police but up to Buckingham Palace level where the Queen was aware of that. So I think
for them to have carried on with that state visit the way that they did with no feathers ruffled to the public was actually quite remarkable. Why
she made these comments know it's very hard to know. It feels like the conversation was slightly set up by the Lord Chamberlain, the (inaudible)
we saw in that clip there.
GORANI: And that head of security was going on a bit, it has to be said. She repeated over and over again in quite a loud voice that she'd been -
that you know that she hadn't found the behavior of the Chinese delegation to be as you know, up to her standards.
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NIKKHAH: But the Queen knew about it which was interesting. The Queen said I know so she'd obviously been made aware during visit that things were not
straightforward.
GORANI: And I want to show our viewers another piece of video. Because the same camera man who filmed that exchange also filmed an exchange between
the Queen and David Cameron, the Prime Minister of Britain. Let's watch this now.
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DAVID CAMERON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: We had a very successful cabinet meeting this morning to talk about our anti-corruption summit, we've got
the Nigerians. Actually we've got some leaders of some fantastically corrupt countries coming to Britain. No Nigeria and Afghanistan, possibly
the two most corrupt countries in the world.
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GORANI: I don't know. Do you put your head in your hands and think, no, why this now? It was the same cameraman, also picked up on the same camera mic
and there you have the Prime Minister of the U.K. saying two of the most corruption nations on earth, Afghanistan and Nigeria.
NIKKHAH: I mean Peter had a very busy day yesterday, the cameraman. The great thing about his role is that he is employed by the BBC and Sky News,
and ITV and his footage cannot be screened or censored. So everything he records is available to those three broadcasters so -- and the Queen knows
that.
GORANI: OK, interesting. So could there be because - could there be fallout from all of this? I mean could there be a change in how footage is gathered
at Buckingham Palace or during Royal events I mean do you think?
NIKKHAH: I'm not sure there is going to be a huge fallout just because it would be reported by the press's censorship and that's something Buckingham
Palace will be very, very you know keen to avoid. That said I suspect you know Peter Wilkinson will probably be spoken to about you know where he's
recording, how close he's standing and what's going out.
But I think, you know I'd go back to the point I think the Queen, unless she knew it was going to go out, she wouldn't have said it.
GORANI: All right, thanks very much, Roya Nikkhah, royal journalist for joining us in the studio here on CNN, we really appreciate it.
And by the way staying here in London, I want to show you shocking pictures from Tuesday evening.
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GORANI: This was the scene. It wasn't a riot or protest but outside a football game. Wow. That looks like it was something quite dramatic went
down there. The Manchester United team bus was arriving at West Ham's ground when wit was attacked. And you can see the windows being smashed as
objects are thrown on and toward it. Videos also emerged of attack from inside the bus.
These are the Manchester United players ducking down as objects hit the windows, filmed by one of the players. West Ham says they will work with
the police to find anyone involved and ban them for life.
Relax, everyone! It is just football! I'm going to get some tweets, I have a feeling. Just football, it's the most important thing.
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GORANI: Coming up, you've probably heard of Spanx. The popular body shaper that makes you look thinner.
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GORANI: Well scientists have created a product some are calling Spanks for the skin that can make you look dramatically younger. That's a tease for
you, isn't it? We'll be right back.
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GORANI: Now the latest in our series from CNN Style where we go behind closed doors to offer you some pretty exclusive access to unique
experiences.
British fashion designer Matthew Williamson is a favorite of Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge. He takes CNN on a late night visit to
his studio to share what inspires his creations.
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MATTHEW WILLIAMSON, BRITISH FASHION DESIGNER: I feel full of ideas when I walk in this space. The emptiness has a certain quality and that feeling
of I guess being alone and therefore not feeling like I'm being watched or judged. I think I'm just free, and just able to be and do what you want.
When you get dressed, you're obviously using clothes as a tool to tell people who you are and there's an outward expression of who you are. My
mother, she was my muse, if you like. I remember watching her every night get ready for work. She prepared her clothes, and her accessories the night
before and sort of turned the process of ready into an art-form and labor of love. And only now as an adult do I see the power that that had on
people around her that she met.
I sort of remember thinking she's a peacock in a sea of grey and she's this kind of energy because of the choices that she's made in her clothes,
people were drawn to her. I look at this room sometimes at night on my own, its 20 years' worth of clothes here. And some things I have fonder memories
of than others. I mean I know everything about each garment, the good and the bad. So it's all here. It is a great place to kind of see where we've
come from, what we have achieved and years -- use as a source to build to the next step of our journey.
People who have worn my clothes will tell me they wore a dress but they'll tell me where they wore it, how they felt -- always. It is never, oh, I've
got your blue dress. That's why I do what I do because I think the moment or the fleeting moment of happiness in that person, is an element of joy
they've got from having one of my pieces.
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GORANI: A new cosmetic product could soon revolutionize the beauty industry. Scientists call it second skin. I have only read about it, I
haven't seen anything on it in terms of moving images. Apparently it does wonders and it makes wrinkles disappear instantly. But it's not magic.
Jeanne Moos speaks to one of its creators.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Whether it's baking soda --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Smear it on.
MOOS: Or coffee grounds, people will try anything to reduce those bags and wrinkles. So why not a second skin?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't see why you couldn't put it on every morning and wear it like every other makeup.
MOOS: Even put makeup on it. An elastic second skin was the title of the paper published by M.I.T. and Harvard scientists in the journal "Nature
Materials."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: First you put on this invisible cream on your skin and that has the Polymer in it. And then in a second step you put on what we
call a catalyst.
MOOS: The two creams produce a bond, an invisible plastic coating that mimics younger skin. Look at the difference in photos accompanying the
article. The coating lasts for at least a day. How does it feel?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It doesn't feel like you're wearing anything.
MOOS: Developed over nine years, tested on over 100 people, the scientists say it could also protect sores and hide skin diseases like eczema and
psoriasis. You really can't tell where the fake skin ends and the new skin begins?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't.
MOOS: Scientists stand to benefit, even get rich if second skin pans out when it hits the marketplace in a couple of years. Why do they keep
pinching that woman's eye bags? To demonstrate the coating's elasticity to skin, something we lose when we age. One joker compared it to the "game of
thrones" character who morphs from old to young and back.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is kind of the Spanx argument. You wear it and then when you take it off you let it all hang out.
MOOS: No word on pricing, though considering the chemical contents, Professor Anderson doesn't see why it should be super expensive.
MOOS: So, how do you get your new invisible second skin off? Pretty much the same way they do in "Mission Impossible." Just hope that if you ever
use second skin, you don't get this reaction when removing it.
Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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GORANI: That looks painful. I don't know about that under eye bag pinching but send me a sample. I'd love to try it, we'll see how it looks.
Don't forget you can find me on twitter @hala gorani, look forward to hearing from you, I think. This has been "The World Right Now" thanks for
watching, I'm Hala Gorani, do stay with CNN, a lot more ahead after a quick break, it's "Quest Means Business."
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