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[15:00:23] HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm Hala Gorani. We are back in London. Thanks for being with us this
evening. This is the WORLD RIGHT NOW.
Well, tonight a meeting that is as extraordinary as it is unexpected. Donald Trump has arrived in Mexico for talks with the country's president.
That is the same Mexico that Trump has continually bashed as he stormed his way to the Republican presidential nomination.
Now these, by the way, are the first pictures of a helicopter that Trump is in flying overhead at Enrique Pena Nieto's official residence.
And the race for the White House has politicians the world over talking. I sat down for an exclusive interview with Marine Le Pen, leader of France's
far right national front. She had strong words on Donald Trump and even stronger words for Hillary Clinton. That in a moment.
First, though, let's take you to Mexico City. Joshua Partlow is the Mexico City bureau chief with the "Washington Post." He's on the phone. He's at
the presidential palace in Mexico City with more on what to expect.
First of all, this was a stunner, this announcement, that Donald Trump was traveling to Mexico to speak with the president. What is going to be
discussed? The Mexican president has compared Donald Trump to Hitler.
JOSHUA PARTLOW, MEXICO CITY BUREAU CHIEF, "WASHINGTON POST" (via telephone): That's true. I mean, that's the big question. It's been a
big shock to everyone here in Mexico that this meeting would even happen including many people in the Mexican government.
I was told that even cabinet ministers weren't aware that the president has extended an invitation to Donald Trump where he accepted. So everyone is
wondering what the two people are going to say, what they're going to say in private, but more importantly, how they're going to address each other
when they're in public in front of the cameras.
GORANI: Because they're going to make announcements, right? I understand Donald Trump will not be taking questions. Talk to me a little about the
sense of anticipation right now. You're with other journalists at the palace, ordinary Mexicans, what's being said about all of this?
PARTLOW: Yes. I'm at the presidential palace here in Mexico City. You know, there's dozens of journalists here, local Mexican journalist as well,
foreign, you know, everyone's waiting to get in to see Donald Trump who's now arrived here as well and has apparently begun that meeting with
President Pena Nieto.
You know, the reaction here in Mexico has been mostly negative so far. People are really offended by some of the comments that Donald Trump is
making in the past year.
They considered him as more of a bad joke, but now that he's the nominee, I think a lot of people here are really worried, particularly about his
economic proposals, building the walls, deportations. People are angry at their own president for inviting him. That's the biggest reaction.
GORANI: All right. Joshua Partlow of the "Washington Post," thanks very much. He's with a big group of journalists here waiting for Donald Trump.
He is going to have a meeting with the Mexican president.
In fact, my colleague, John Vause is in Mexico covering this visit. One of the Trump advisers who spoke to CNN said you've got to throw in a little
theater now and then. They're not disappointing on that front, it seems.
JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, absolutely, Hala. It's been a very dramatic day. The details of this visit have been shifting by the hour.
Just in the last 30 minutes or so we saw the helicopter fly low overhead and land at the presidential palace.
The timing of this -- the meeting is expected to last for about 50 minutes after that the two men will make a statement. I was told they won't take
questions so it will be just statements.
On that issue, I guess, we'll have to wait and see. But this is a trip for Donald Trump, which his campaign and his supporters are saying in many ways
it's about polishing his image.
[15:05:07]It's about showing that he can be a statesman, that he can hold a meeting with a world leader. His detractors are saying, hang on. What's
the point? If you're going there for a handshake and a smile, there doesn't seem to be much point on policy issues. It's all simply a
publicity stunt.
GORANI: But do we know why the Mexican president invited Donald Trump? He had very harsh words for him. Compared him to Hitler. Donald Trump again
a few days ago reiterated his plan to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it, et cetera, et cetera. So do we know what's behind it from the Mexican
president's side here?
VAUSE: Well, to be fair, they're drawing a line between Donald Trump's rhetoric and you know, the rhetoric that used by Hitler in Mussolini.
That's back in March to a newspaper interview.
Several months after that, they have suffered considerably. Enrique Pena Nieto is talking about the need for dialogue, the need to sit down, work
out our differences in his words to find the best for the people of Mexico.
And so, you know, the invitation could simply be that, a chance to sit down with the man who may actually end up being the president of the United
States and try and work out some of these differences that they have between themselves.
Hillary Clinton received the same invitation as well because at the end of the day, this relationship between the United States and Mexico is
incredibly important to both countries.
GORANI: And what about the -- I mean, not just ordinary Mexicans, people along the route that Donald Trump is expected to take to get to the
presidential palace. Are there people gathering? What's the mood right now?
VAUSE: Yes, well there had been a number of street protests throughout the day, they are a few miles from here. But Donald Trump flew in by
helicopter. He avoided the traffic and protesters. He didn't get to see that.
But he has to be pretty aware of what most Mexicans think of him given his statements over the last 14 months. After all, this is a state that makes
Donald Trump pinatas. That's one of the big hot selling items here.
GORANI: All right, well, his adviser promised theater, it seems like we will be getting that. We got it with the helicopter ride and we'll see if
we get it during the press conference. Thanks very much. John Vause is in Mexico City covering this unexpected visit.
So unexpected in fact that we understand that the traveling press corps covering Donald Trump was not given a heads up about it. So many people
perhaps they are covering him regularly didn't have the opportunity to make these travel arrangements to Mexico City on short notice.
By the way, later this hour, we expect to hear from Donald Trump in Mexico City. We'll bring you that live and I'll be speaking to one of his top
advisers, Jack Kingston. I'll be asking him why Donald Trump is making this visit.
Let's turn our attention to France now as we've told you on this show in recent days. France is facing a debate over national identities sparked by
a piece of swimwear, the burkini.
But you may ask yourself what about other countries, what do they think about it? Take look at these fresh poll numbers from the U.K., 57 percent
of people say they would support a ban of the full face burka. It is legal here in the U.K., by the way.
Twenty five percent of people surveyed said they would oppose the ban. The garments were only a woman's eyes are visible can regularly be seen on the
streets of London. So regularly I frantically see it a few times a week in some parts of London.
But I did just returned from France today where that burkini debate rages on. One woman who never pulls any punches over the issue is the National
Front leader, Marine Le Pen.
Earlier today I sat down exclusively with the outspoken far right presidential candidate. I began by asking her about the burkini and what
she thinks about it.
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MARINE LE PEN, NATIONAL FRONT LEADER: (Speaking French)
GORANI: You don't tell a nun to take off her habit or an orthodox Jewish woman to remove her long skirt. Why just Muslims?
LE PEN: (Speaking French)
GORANI: They're not terrorists. They're just wearing burkinis.
[15:10:00]LE PEN: (Speaking French)
GORANI: It's the double standard question, why the Muslim woman and not the catholic nun.
LE PEN: (Speaking French)
GORANI: ISIS might look at this and say, see, we told you the west wants to persecute Muslims. Are you not playing into their hands?
LE PEN: (Speaking French)
GORANI: "The New Yorker" said Donald Trump, the U.S. Republican presidential candidate is now the American Marine Le Pen. Do you think
you're the same type of politician?
LE PEN: (Speaking French)
GORANI: What do you think of specific Donald Trump proposals, building a wall between Mexico and U.S., banning all Muslims from entering the
country?
LE PEN: (Speaking French)
GORANI: You would rather vote for Donald Trump than Hillary Clinton if you had a choice.
LE PEN: (Speaking French)
GORANI: Let me ask you this. Brexit happened, but there have been very, very negative predictions and some pretty bad numbers. Some people say
they have regretted voting for Brexit. If you see what happened in Britain, do you still think it's what France needs to exit the E.U.?
LE PEN: (Speaking French)
GORANI: You think Brexit would be good for France, to undo decades, decades of a political project that has kept this continent at peace with
itself.
LE PEN: (Speaking French)
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GORANI: Marine Le Pen, the leader of the National Front certainly positioning herself right now for a presidential election. There are many
players in this presidential election.
[15:15:06]The socialist president is weak on the right. You're seeing many people trying to place themselves in order to get the best out of the
upcoming election season.
But very interesting to hear from Marine Le Pen as we see this anti- establishment, anti-immigrant fever sweeping Europe and even some parts of the United States.
A lot more to come this evening. What life is like inside a Syrian town a week after it was liberated from ISIS? Our Nick Paton Walsh is the only
western journalist with that access. His report in Syria is next.
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GORANI: The town of Jarablus in Northern Syria is finally tasting freedom, well, at least freedom from ISIS, that is. After years of living under the
iron fist of the terrorist group. Syrian rebels backed by Turkey recaptured the town last week.
And our Nick Paton Walsh is the first western television journalist to gain access. Take a look at his report.
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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): We are headed inside yet another new chapter in Syria's endless war. Turkish
officials want us to see the Syrian rebel control of the Syrian border town of Jarablus that their military enabled.
They kicked ISIS out of here a week ago and we are the first western TV they let in. ISIS had enough time here to remodel the town in their image,
get into the minds of children, some of whom they tried to recruit as soldiers.
One neighbor blew himself up in a car, says this boy he's 13 and carries water for the rebels. He said some of his friends became suicide bombers
for ISIS. They tortured and beat people, everything here. It was just down there, he says.
He shows us the square where ISIS gruesomely filmed their murders.
(on camera): It's a very strange game for these children to play with newcomers. They are showing us exactly where it was that ISIS would
display the heads of those they decapitated in punishment, but yet again another central square, another central town cleansed of ISIS's dark world.
(voice-over): Yet there is another key building here, the recruitment center where they found a torn up ledger of names near the basement jail.
(on camera): They're showing us further inside this building which is the first point people who crossed from Turkey to join ISIS would have sought
to register with the group.
(voice-over): No longer here can ISIS welcome outsiders to their twisted world, but other problems have arisen as these men's fight isn't simply
against ISIS, but it's also against American allies against ISIS, the Syrian Kurds.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We don't want to fight all the Kurds, just the Syrian Kurdish PKK. Just those who want to break up Syria.
[15:20:02]WALSH: There is optimism here, early signs of a new project Turkey has undertaken to flood this area with moderate sympathetic rebels
who will tackle the Kurds, but also create safe zone free of ISIS. Only the second half of that is what Washington has wanted.
(on camera): To some degree this is what American policy has yearned for, for years, moderate Sunni-Arab rebels here have cleaned the town out of
ISIS extremists, now controlling what many have sought, a kind of buffer zone for Syrians fleeing the regime.
(voice-over): Smiles calm the busy streets. We've seen them before in Syria's intractable war then watched them turn sour again. Nick Paton
Walsh, CNN, Jarablus, Syria.
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GORANI: History was made on a runway in Cuba today, the first commercial flight from the United States in more than 50 years touched down on the
island. It's the latest sign of thawing relations between the two countries and it's a very visible one.
In the coming months, up to 110 daily flights between the U.S. and Cuba will start operating. If you want to see the island before the way it was
before mass tourism, some say it's probably already too late, but certainly now would be the time to go.
Now, speaking of flying, as regular viewers of the show might know, I have a mild fear of flying that becomes quite acute during turbulence. The
United Airlines flight from Houston, Texas to London is in the news as well for very different reasons.
The Boeing jet was hit by severe turbulence early Wednesday. So severe it had to make an emergency landing in Ireland, 12 people went to hospital.
Passengers say the shaking started about half way over the Atlantic while many people were asleep. There were steep drops in altitude.
Let's go to our aviation correspondent and my colleague, Richard Quest, who joins us now from CNN New York. I understand we're talking sudden dips of
4,000 feet in the air.
RICHARD QUEST, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT: Well, we don't know if it was 4,000, 4,000 is a lot. I can promise you, Hala, a couple of hundred feet
can feel like 4,000 when it happens instantaneously.
What we know is the plane was a 767, about 300 miles off the western coast of Ireland, so it was just coming off the Atlantic having flown from
Houston, Texas. It was on its way to Heathrow when in the words of the United it suddenly met severe and unexpected turbulence.
Remember turbulence is just the air moving, just the air bouncing around, the pressure changes, weather conditions, weather systems forming, and they
buffet the plane. Have a listen, though, to what one of the passengers said it felt like when it actually took place.
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NIKKI MARTIN BORIACK, PASSENGER (via telephone): It happened so fast, I mean, it was so unexpected because there was no turbulence before and it
was a straight drop. It was long enough, a couple of seconds but long enough to think about it and while you're dropping, everything is flying
up.
So anybody who wasn't buckled flew up. It was really surreal. And then we had a few bumps for a second and then there was another really big drop.
There were a number of people that like the first time it happened weren't buckled and we were trying to get everybody buckled before that second
drop.
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QUEST: Now, imagine you are on -- imagine my phone is the plane and that is you on the plane. What happens as the plane drops, you stay up there
and you hit your head on the roof of the plane. As it continues to drop, you get the idea.
Because effectively, Hala, all you are is like an egg in the middle of a metal tube and if the metal tube starts bouncing around and you haven't
fastened your seat belt, the seat will drop, you will go up, and you will be injured. That's what happened.
GORANI: I just hope my head doesn't suffer the fate of the eggshell in that particular analogy. Here's the thing. It's 2016. All sorts of
technological advances have been made in all sorts of areas. How is it that we still can't tell when there's going to be major turbulence like
this on plane that only -- flying through it is our first sign that something is wrong and we're having to count on the plane's out of bust?
QUEST: We can predict most of it. Remember, Hala, think of all those flights where the seatbelt sign suddenly comes on and your captain --
GORANI: Yes, that's because the pilot ahead of the plane that we are in says be careful there's turbulence. It's not like there's an instrument
that tells you.
QUEST: There is. There is a weather radar that's sweeping in front of the aircraft and it's showing particularly bad weather. It's showing in red
the areas, the thunder storms and turbulence.
[15:25:07]But you can get these sudden shifts in winds either in the jet stream or a weather system building up that create this clear air
turbulence all of a sudden and quite dangerously.
Now look, don't be worried. The plane is well able to angle it. The plane is fine. Those wings can be bent up right. I've seen it done at Boeing.
They literally take the wing and bend it up.
It's not very nice when you see the wing going like this flapping and the engines (inaudible), but the plane will be fine. The reality is it's you
that's in trouble because you're not strapped in. And I'm betting you're one of those people that doesn't keep their seatbelt fastened.
GORANI: No. You would be losing that bet. I actually put that seatbelt on even if I'm sleeping, I do exactly as I'm told. I'm obedient in that
department. I'm being told to leave it there. Richard, thanks very much. We appreciate it. We'll see you at the top of the hour on "QUEST MEANS
BUSINESS."
Brazil's first female president is out of the job, but she can run for office again in the future if she's not worn out from a nine-month
impeachment trial.
The Senate voted 61-20 to remove her from office earlier. She was suspended in May for allegedly misrepresenting the country's budget
deficit. Her interim president will be sworn in shortly.
Shasta Darlington joins us from Brasilia with all the details. She says she was stabbed in the back by former supporters and this was a hunt to get
her.
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Hala. She's argued all along that she didn't actually break any laws. In fact, when she
appeared at the Senate earlier this week she took time to point to lawmakers who are leading the impeachment drive against her, she said, not
only did I not commit a crime, but you're being investigated for corruption, a much more serious crime.
But the fact is this long drawn out process really is over. She has been voted out by more than the two-thirds necessary. It's the end of the era
for the Workers Party, which has really been empower for 13 years, a left leaning party that has helped millions of Brazilians to climbed out of
poverty.
But the money ran out when the commodity sales to China really started to slow down. What we're seeing now just about to happen is the -- he was the
interim president, before that he was Rousseff's vice president.
Michel Temer is about to be sworn in as president. He will be in office until the end of the term in 2018. They've decorated the Congress very
quickly do this. The idea is this is going to be a speedy ceremony.
He is prerecording a message that will go out to the nation tonight because he wants to jump on a plane formally and officially as the president of
Brazil and head to the G-20 meeting in China.
No doubt to try and get investors excited about coming back to Brazil which is in the second year of the recession, one of the main reasons Rousseff
was squeezed out in the first place -- Hala.
GORANI: OK, Shasta Darlington in Brasilia, thanks very much.
When we come back, an incredible report out of Botswana where elephants are being killed at an alarming rate. CNN rides along with those really
risking a lot to protect these beautiful animals. We'll have that and more after this.
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[15:31:03] GORANI: A look at our top stories, Donald Trump is meeting we understand now privately with the Mexican president, Enrique Pena Nieto.
He will then return to the United States to deliver what he calls a major immigration speech, a theme that he's brought up time and time again.
Trump's hard-lined stance against illegal immigration has angered many Hispanics. We'll have more on this story shortly. So stay tuned.
But also among our top stories, Russia says it was behind the air strike that killed ISIS senior commander, Mohammad Al-Adnani. But American
officials are -- they are casting doubt on that claim. The White House says there are, quote, "No facts to prove that Russia was behind this
killing."
We told you yesterday about thousands of migrants rescued from the Mediterranean, well, today hundreds of them arrived at a Sicilian port,
6,500 migrants were rescued by the Italian Coast Guard in just 30 hours from Sunday into Monday, a big spike.
The Facebook founder, Mark Zuckerberg, is on his first trip to Nigeria. He met text developers in Lagos and visited Yaba (ph), the country's version
of Silicon Valley. Zuckerberg's foundation has invested millions in African startups.
Well, in a last-minute detour from the campaign trail after a year of fierce rhetoric aimed at Mexicans, the Republican presidential candidate,
Donald Trump, is now in Mexico.
He is meeting with the president, Enrique Pena Nieto. All this comes just hours before Trump says he will deliver a major speech on immigration
across the border in Arizona. We'll be speaking hopefully to Vicente Fox, a former Mexican president, who has been very critical of this visit in a
moment.
But first let's bring in Jack Kingston. He's a senior adviser with the Trump campaign and he joins me from Washington. This was a stunner, wasn't
it? Nobody was expecting this visit to Mexico. What was behind it?
JACK KINGSTON, SENIOR ADVISER, TRUMP CAMPAIGN: Well, let me say this, this is why Donald Trump is getting thousands and thousands of people behind him
in his rallies because he's an exciting candidate. Hillary Clinton is hiding way in the Hamptons at Martha's Vineyard.
Donald Trump goes to Milwaukee, Louisiana, and now he's going to Mexico just hours before he gives his major immigration speech. This is what
Americans want. They want somebody who is trying to get something done.
GORANI: Hillary Clinton is not hiding away and she also --
KINGSTON: Absolutely.
GORANI: -- have received an invitation to go to Mexico. Hiding away is a very interesting way of qualifying her campaigning on a daily basis.
KINGSTON: She has not had a press conference in 270 days. She's hanging out with the 1 percenters. She did not go to Milwaukee or Louisiana and
she was invited to Mexico and has not committed to go.
I think as one of our number one trade partners, Canada and Mexico, very important Hillary Clinton had embraced NAFTA. Now she's against. You
know, the trip to Mexico just isn't about immigration. It's about trade. They're a very significant trade partner and Trump thinks we need to update
NAFTA and I think that's a good --
GORANI: But Jack Kingston, you know who else is not holding a press conference today in Mexico, that is Donald Trump. He's not taking
reporters' questions from what we understand. So he is just going to be making a statement and President Nieto will be making a statement as well.
KINGSTON: You'll get a lot of answers tonight and I think you'll get more in the weeks to come. So if Hillary Clinton would hold one press
conference, I think it would be an exciting thing.
But also remember this, the drug industry in Mexico is like a $19 billion, $20 billion annual industry. It affects Mexico. Something like 17,000
people have been killed since 2015, 80,000 people have been killed since 2006. This is something that affects both countries in a very major way
and Donald Trump is going to talk about that.
GORANI: But I don't think anybody -- I don't think anybody is denying that Mexico is not an important trade partner, that there aren't issues with
drug consumption and drug trafficking, but Donald Trump over the last year has made a point of saying over and over again of bashing Mexico.
[15:35:03]He again repeated to our own Anderson Cooper a few days ago that he stands behind the building of that wall and that Mexico will pay for it.
Jack Kingston, I want you to be reminded of what Donald Trump said just days ago about Mexico.
OK. Sorry. It's not there. I'll just paraphrase it, Jack. He essentially said, look, I reiterate this position. There will be a wall.
Mexico will pay for it. You watch.
KINGSTON: You know, what he's concerned about is our broken immigration problem has been ignored by the Republicans and Democrats alike for really
going on for years and years and even decades. He's been clear.
You need the secure the border. You need to have the existing laws enforced. You need to have no amnesty. You need to do away with sanctuary
cities. Hillary Clinton has said open borders and amnesty.
Those differences are night and day. Donald Trump is not mad at Mexico. He's mad at broken laws and laws in America that we don't follow and I
think the fact that he's willing to go down there, sit down and engage is very, very, very important.
I know that the -- the past president who's in the opposite political party is getting in his political licks on this situation, and I understand that.
That's politics in Mexico and politics in America.
GORANI: We're going to be speaking to him next so it's a great segue way. Thanks for setting that up for us, Jack Kingston.
KINGSTON: I intro it.
GORANI: All right, thank you very much. We appreciate your time. Jack Kingston is a senior adviser to the Donald Trump campaign, former
congressman from Georgia.
Now, Enrique Pena Nieto is meeting Trump but a former Mexican president is not happy about it. Vicente Fox got into a Twitter war of words with the
Republican nominee.
In a tweet Trump said Fox also invited him to Mexico. Fox responded saying he'd invited him not for just a social visit but to come and apologize to
the Mexican people and told him to show them some respect.
Vicente Fox joins me now live from (inaudible), Mexico. Thanks, sir, for being with us. First of all, you clearly don't think this is a good idea,
this meeting between Donald Trump and the current Mexican president. Why not?
VICENTE FOX, FORMER MEXICAN PRESIDENT: It is not because it is an opportunistic move on the side of Trump. He knows pretty well that he's
not welcome here in Mexico, 130 million people don't like him. Same thing with the 35 million that are in the United States.
So he's not welcome, and, yes, it's very unfortunate, and I have criticized my own President Pena because I think he was very candid in accepting this
interview because Mr. Trump is going to take advantage of it.
He's been promoting the meetings. But at the very end, he's absolutely out of his mind in thinking to propose this moment to President Pena that
Mexico pays for the wall or that Mexico helps to build the wall.
That's incredible and nonsense. I think in this interview President Pena is not representing the 120 million Mexicans. I'm surprised that this
happened.
GORANI: So why do you think that he invited Donald Trump, your president?
FOX: It's difficult for me to say why he's so candid. Maybe he is having also the same desperation that Trump has in relation to the polls. Same as
falling down in the polls, President Nieto has the lowest rating today of any Mexican president of all times.
Maybe he is also trying to in a very desperate move trying to regain part of his public image. The other thing to think about is that he might think
that as a statesman that he can convince Trump to change his behavior.
GORANI: OK.
FOX: But Trump changes his behavior and his positions every minute.
GORANI: You have engaged some very strong back-and-forth, by the way, Twitter wars, is the only way to call them. You, in fact, said when you
tweeted, Trump said, well, he's invited me and he's bashing me. You basically told him on Twitter that he was lying about it.
[15:40:04]FOX: I invited him to come on his knees, apologize to all Mexicans here in Mexico and United States. That's the only opportunity
that President Pena has that is after the interview that he forces, oblige Senor Trump to ask for that apology for all Mexicans.
We usually have our bit here in Guadeloupe, Mexico. That he would kneel in front (inaudible) and ask for forgiveness and pardon to all Mexicans. He
really offended us.
But further in the end, all he's described is economic policies proposed, they're totally out of line, are totally wrong. He considers trade is on
the disadvantage of United States economy. That is not true. We have here --
GORANI: But -- yes. Go ahead. I just -- I just wanted to ask you one question, though, getting into the economic numbers, but he has changed, it
appears, his position on immigration in some ways on immigration. At first he said 11 million immigrants would be deported en masse, then he said some
could leave and return, it doesn't have to be this harsh. Is any of what he said recently changing your opinion of Donald Trump, the candidate?
FOX: Absolutely not. And I don't understand who can trust him at this point of the game. I mean, he's not trustable. No one can say what he's
going to do as president. He's changed every day. But also totally out of line. How can he think that Mexico is going to pay for that wall?
How can he think that he will cut the remittances of Mexicans in the United States to their families? How can he propose going to a trade war? United
States economy leaves out all trading. That's the greatest strength of the U.S. economy.
All of these policies are totally wrong and he's only going to create a profound recession as it happened with President Hoover a hundred years
ago. He proposed exactly the same public policies.
Tax import into the United States and to forbid corporations to invest in the United States and we saw the profound recession that happened in 1929.
GORANI: Well, the former president of Mexico, Vicente Fox there, with a very strong opinion about this visit by Donald Trump to Mexico. It came as
a surprise to many of us. Thank you so much for joining us from Mexico with your take from this. Thank you, sir.
FOX: I wish you the best and to all the people in the United States, don't follow this false prophet. He will feed your face to cows.
GORANI: All right, we will live it there. Thanks so much for joining us. We are, as I mentioned before, awaiting some remarks from Donald Trump in
Mexico. This is the stage. It's been set up. It was quite a surprise, this visit.
So they're both going to address, both President Enrique Pena Nieto and Donald Trump, address reporter. There will be no questions by journalists,
but we'll wait to see if that changes.
CNN will bring you that immigration speech. He's speaking in Arizona at 6 p.m. local time. That's 2:00 a.m. here in London, 9:00 a.m. in Hong Kong.
This is the WORLD RIGHT NOW.
Coming up, a New York homeowner is offering $5,000 to help find the person who stole his Donald Trump lawn signs. We'll be right back.
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GORANI: Well, let's keep you up to date on the fast moving developments in Brazil. Michel Temer is being sworn in as the country's president and that
was just hours ago after Dilma Rousseff was ousted from office. Temer has been serving as Brazil's interim president since May when he named an all-
white all-male cabinet.
Now to this, for decades the population of African elephants has been largely guess work beginning around 2007. A large upswing in poaching of
illegal ivory driven by demand in China has hammered the most common Savannah elephant species.
But until now nobody knew just how bad it really was. CNN's David McKenzie reports from Northern Botswana. We have to warn you that some viewers may
find images disturbing here.
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DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Getting ready to fly in Botswana's far north. Elephant ecologist, Mike Chase, has
spent years counting Savannah elephants from the sky.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Never before have we ever conducted a standardized survey for African elephants at a continental scale.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right. Start counting. Nice speed. Well done, Tommy.
MCKENZIE: Hundreds of air crew counted elephants in 18 countries across the continent over two years.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Elephant seven. Seven elephants.
MCKENZIE: Flying the distance to the moon and then sun. Their results more shocking than anyone imagined.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've spent thousands of hours flying over areas where elephants should be but are no longer present in these habitats.
MCKENZIE: Killed for their ivory in seven short years up to 2014, elephant numbers dropped by a staggering amount, almost one-third. Across Africa
their numbers are crashing. If nothing changes, their population will have in less than a decade, in some areas, they will go extinct.
(on camera): It seems like a disturbing uptick in the poaching in Botswana and in Namibia. This elephant was killed days ago, three days. You can
smell it all the way from here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wow. He was spectacular. Look how big he was.
MCKENZIE: Awful.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In fact, not even three days. There you have the clear evidence with his face hacked away. He met his end with people chopping
away at his tusks.
MCKENZIE (on camera): You grew up in this country of Botswana. What is it like seeing these magnificent beasts killed like this?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think we've seen it as much as we have the last two years. For me this becomes a lot more personal.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We'll continue.
MCKENZIE (voice-over): To fight the war, Botswana has mobilized the army with more than 700 troops guarding its northern border. Patrols spent days
in the bush on foot armed with a shoot-to-kill policy for poachers. They're up against a sophisticated enemy.
[15:50:03](on camera): So they're looking for any sign of poachers. If they come across them, they're often highly organized groups of about 12
people. Two of them could be shooters often and those shooters are frequently Special Forces.
(voice-over): His research proves that if we can't protect elephants, they will learn to protect themselves.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can hear him snoring.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He in his prime. It's these young bulls who have the ability to move dramatic distances and met their trans-boundary
conservation corridors.
MCKENZIE: But their satellite tracking shows that the elephants use incredible levels of intelligence to avoid poaching hot spots in
neighboring countries retreating to relative safety within Botswana.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's quite incredible being this close to this animal.
MCKENZIE (on camera): It is.
(voice-over): We called this bull Promise. For the promise that Mike Chase has made and perhaps we all should to save this magnificent species.
David McKenzie, CNN.
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GORANI: Now for something a little bit different. Massimo Bottura, a chef, (inaudible) runs a restaurant that was recently voted best in the world.
He's known for slow food and advocates local ingredients in traditional ways but CNN Style shows us outside the kitchen his passion is for
something different.
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MASSIMO BOTTURA, CHEF: Being a contemporary chef, I think, is a big responsibility. You look at things that usually people don't look at, and
you see the perspective, totally different, upside down.
Driving a car like this to me because I'm one of the few who have the opportunity to drive such a rare car. It's about the motion. You can look
at the front and say this is my future, but there is a small back mirror that keeps reminding you that's your past. That's where you come from.
It's emotional like listening to someone whisper in a trumpet. But when we were kids, we were like standing on the side of the street and listening to
the sound of the cars or the motorcycle and saying, this is -- this is the 12-cylinder.
Feel how the saxophone is playing so deep or this is the 6 cylinder, feel the engine. It's so pungent. It's an alto sax.
There's a very important inscription. It means make easy the very difficult things, and that's what we do.
[15:55:04]Coming back to a provincial small town will keep you grounded. It stays so easy and simple. You never have to lose per session of who you
are and where you come from.
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GORANI: But we leave you now with battle brewing in the U.S. election and we don't mean the action on the campaign trail. Take a look at this video.
Trump supporters are increasingly finding their lawn signs targeted by Trump opponents. It's gotten so bad in one New York neighborhood, a Trump
backer is offering a $5,000 reward for information on the political vandals.
So we've been covering this visit by Donald Trump to Mexico. It was unexpected. Many say that even cabinet ministers were unaware it was
happening and it was the current President Pena Nieto who invited Donald Trump and Donald Trump actually flew there.
We saw his chopper flying heading to the presidential palace. Now this could be a bit of an awkward conversation behind closed doors. You may
remember that Donald Trump called many Mexicans rapists and murderers and drug traffickers and the rest of it.
The president, Pena Nieto, compared Donald Trump to Hitler. Well, will they be mending faces? What will they say when they address reporters in
just a few minutes? That's what we're expecting in Mexico City.
This is all happening before what the campaign is calling a major immigration speech by Donald Trump back in the United States. But before
any of that happens, we'll hear from both presidents -- I should say the candidate and the president of Mexico Pena Nieto and the candidate to the
presidential election Donald Trump, and we'll bring you that live.
Well, thanks for joining us. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, my colleague, Richard Quest will take it away with "QUEST MEANS
BUSINESS." As for me, I'll see you tomorrow same time same place tomorrow on CNN. Stay with us.
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