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WARD: Clinton called it unfair. Then a historic peace deal rejected. We will look at what's next for Colombia after decades of violence.
Plus robbed at gunpoint, the security failures that allow thieves to take more than $5 million worth of jewelry from Kim Kardashian and the social
media frenzy that followed. And later, a national gut check 101 days after the Brexit vote. I asked leaving (ph) lead (ph) campaigner, Nigel Farage,
what he thinks of the past out of the European Union.
Hello, I'm Clarissa Ward, standing in for Hala Gorani, live from CNN London. And this is the world right now.
With just 36 days left until the U.S. election, time is running out for Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump to regain his grip on the
campaign's message to make America great again. The issue over whether he legally avoided (ph) paying income taxes for many years has become the
critical headline in recent days.
Trump made no mention of it earlier during a gathering of retired war veterans. Instead, he's getting brand new criticism for observing (ph) his
speech that some soldiers who commit suicide do so because they can't handle the post-traumatic stress of war.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: So when people come back from war and combat, and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over and
you're strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can't handle it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: Meantime, democratic presidential hopeful, Hillary Clinton, has just wrapped up a campaign stop where she took on the issue of America's
complicated tax code and loopholes like the one Donald Trump took advantage of.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CLINTON: It is riddled with loopholes that let the rich get even richer and make income inequality even worse. It tilts the playing field further
against small businesses that can't afford lawyers and lobbyists.
So with all these pressures pushing in the wrong direction, it's even more important that we have an election about these very issues.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: The Clinton campaign has really lit (ph) into Trump about his income tax issue. CNN's Manu Raju has more.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CLINTON: He didn't pay any federal income tax. So if he stayed (ph)...
TRUMP: That makes me smart.
RAJU: After refusing to release his tax returns for months, Donald Trump and his campaign, defending revelations in "New York Times" that Trump once
claimed a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax return, which legally could have allowed Trump to pay nothing in federal income taxes for nearly
two decades.
(UNIDENTIFIED MALE): There's no one who's shown more genius in -- in their way to maneuver around the tax code.
RAJU: Trump's high-profile advisers responding by praising the GOP candidate's business savvy.
GIULIANI: He's a genius. What he did was he took advantage...
(UNIDENTIFIED MALE): OK.
GIULIANI: ...of something that could save his enterprise.
RAJU: Trump, himself, tweeting that he knows the tax laws better than anyone. And he's the only one who can fix them.
SANDERS: Trump goes around and says, hey, I'm worth billions. I'm a successful businessman. But I don't pay any taxes.
But you -- you make 15 bucks an hour, you pay the taxes, not me.
RAJU: Former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, defending the practice in a contentious exchange on CNN Sunday.
GIULIANI: Most Americans take advantage of every deduction available to -- to them. And of course...
(UNIDENTIFIED MALE): Most Americans pay federal income taxes, though, sir. And Donald Trump apparently did not.
GIULIANI: No.
RAJU: Trump campaign in Pennsylvania over the weekend, lobbying unfounded attacks against Hillary Clinton despite warnings from GOP leaders to stay
away from personal attacks.
TRUMP: Hillary Clinton's only loyalty is to her financial contributors and to herself. I don't even think she's loyal to Bill, if you want to know
the truth.
RAJU: And again, attempting to raise doubts over Clinton's health.
TRUMP: Here's a woman, she's supposed to fight all of these different things, and she can't make it 15 feet to her car.
RAJU: Mocking her recent bout of pneumonia.
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TRUMP: Give me a break.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: Well, CNN Politics Editor, Juana Summers, joins us now from Washington.
And I'm wondering, Juana, the tax returns still very much being talked about. Can Trump just back this off? Or how does he move forward from
this?
SUMMERS: Well, one way he could move forward and follow his struggle for president (ph), of course, would be to release those tax returns because
now, there's this open question of doubt of what actually happened. We haven't heard a direct response really from the Trump campaign about this
reporting from the "New York Times" that we -- that you all were just talking about in Manu's package (ph).
So there -- that's one way he could do it. Another way to do it is to just have -- give a little bit more detail. You know, for most Americans, the
idea of losses of $916 million nearly, that is just so much money.
So for the average person sitting at home trying to decide who they're going to vote for in November, this is one of those things that run through
us (ph) of making Donald Trump seem out of touch with the American people and not really understanding the concerns of every day Americans who are
struggling in today's economy.
WARD: Juana Summers, thank you very much. Well, one week ago, Colombia's president and the FARC chief commander signed a historic peace accord. On
Sunday, the citizens of Colombia voted against the deal, which would end the 52-year-long bloody conflict.
For many, the atrocities committed by FARC were just too much to forgive. They felt there was insufficient punishment for those who perpetrated a
litany of crimes.
And the president lost some support just by agreeing to sit down with the rebels. FARC commander, Timoleon Jimenez, says his group will maintain the
ceasefire with Colombia's government.
I had the opportunity to speak recently with Nestor Osorio Londono, Colombia's ambassador to the U.K. about Sunday's surprise vote.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
LONDONO: I think that the country has witnessed for the last four years a very -- the development of the negotiations between the government of FARC.
They received segmented and partial information about what was going on.
And two months ago, the people were presented with an agreement of almost 300 pages in which there were very delicate (ph) issues like the
transitional system of justice, like the participation in politics of the guerillas, and the way to dispose and deal with the illicit traffic of
drugs in which the FARC have been involved. And in this negotiation, the government aimed to go as far as it was supposed to go in terms of
approving and adopting some system of justice in determining the level of participation in politics.
And the aim of president Santos (ph) from the very beginning was to guarantee that it was not going to be impunity. A conflict that has
elapsed for more than 50 years, the wounds and the sentiments of people are, in many areas of Colombia, are still very bitter and -- and would -- a
campaign (ph) lead the people to -- to say that the agreements were not right, then the people came with a vote that narrowly (ph) defeated the...
WARD: Very narrowly.
LONDONO: ...those -- it was almost 50,000 votes in -- in (ph) 15 million voters.
WARD: Like how do you think the government managed to misread the mood? Because this really came as a shock, this result.
LONDONO: It came as a shock. We were very confident because the -- the polls that we have been seeing in the last week showed that at least 60
percent -- that was more or less the average of -- of the polls -- 60 percent was going to vote in favor. So it came.
I'm not (ph) -- I would like to avoid the comparison, but it was more or less the same surprise that the United Kingdom had when the result of the
Brexit...
WARD: Brexit.
LONDONO: ...took place. So we -- we take on board what has happened. And -- and yes, through (ph) last night and today, all the reports, all the
analysis not chose (ph) that not even those who vote for no and won the election were prepared to win.
They were surprised as well.
WARD: So what happens next? Is there a concern that Colombia could go back into this bloody war?
LONDONO: The president is determined to carry on with the efforts to conduct the peace -- their -- the country to a peace agreement. He said
last night very clearly that he will do that until the last day of his mandate (ph).
He will continue to work on this area, and has invited all the political forces of the country, especially those who has promoted the known (ph)
agreements to come and sit and discuss with him and then with the FARC what could be the way to revise, and if possible, to readdress (ph) these
agreements.
Another positive factor is that the leader of the guerilla has declared last night and reiterated this morning that their only objective is to
continue to work for peace. They have not given any sign of coming back to war.
And I'm very confident that what he's saying is something that we should (ph) believe.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: Now, the robbery that has caused a social media storm. Kim Kardashian-West has been left badly shaken after she was robbed at gunpoint
in a private apartment in Paris. Officials say a gang of men disguised as police officers held a gun to the star's head and stole about $10 million
worth of jewelry. Her husband, Kanye West, was performing in New York when he got the news.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WEST: I'm sorry, family emergency, I have to stop the show.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: Kim Kardashian-West has now left France after speaking with the police. CNN Entertainment Reporter, Chloe Melas is in New York.
But first, let's talk with Melissa Bell who is in Paris for us.
Melissa, this is very embarrassing for the Parisian police. What are they saying happened here? And how did this happen?
BELL: It is a huge embarrassment, specifically at a time, Clarissa, when the French authorities were desperately trying to lure tourists back to
Paris for the image of Paris as a tourist destination -- a luxury tourist destination. This is catastrophic, and of course, as you say, for the
authorities themselves, that this could have happened in the heart of Paris' poshist (ph) district, if you like, one that is -- on top of that,
in the middle of a -- of an emergency -- state of emergency with extra policemen, military, personnel on the streets.
This is a massive embarrassment for the authorities. So they are very keen to get to the bottom of this. And they've said that they will spare no
effort in trying to catch the five robbers responsible in order that they can put it -- bring back a bit of sign (ph) to -- to the French system.
They need to prove that they can get to the bottom of this case.
It was just behind me, behind that door that it took place, Clarissa, at 2:30 in the morning last night. The investigation is still under way.
Of course, the French authorities has -- remaining very tight-lipped about how it's proceeding. But clearly, they're going to be going to get these -
- hold of these men as quickly as they can to put an end to this catastrophically embarrassing story.
WARD: Indeed.
I mean, Cloe, you're in New York covering the sort of entertainment side of this whole thing. It's been extraordinary to watch how the world has been
captivated by this story.
What has been the response on the internet? And why are people so interested? Why are -- why is everybody talking about this?
MELAS: Well, first of all, they are a Twitter trend right now -- Kim Kardashian. They're on the top of Google trends in multiple countries all
over the world.
And I think that we need to take a step back and remember that this couple, Kimye as they are referred to as, are one of the most talked about,
photographed couples in the entire world. If we're going to talk about their combined star power, you're talking about international fame.
And whether or not you love this couple, you can't stand them, you're on the fence, you are interested in this news because they are constantly
making headlines. These people are newsmakers. Kim Kardashian, photographed all week at Paris Fashion Week, supporting her younger sister,
Kendall Jenner, who was walking in the shows.
And then you have Kanye who was performing at the Meadows Festival in New York like you were talking about. So this couple -- you can't avoid them,
even if you tried to.
And this is like a scene straight out of a Hollywood movie like "Taken" or something. And so you combine their star power with a robbery at gunpoint,
you're talking headlines and a lot of interest.
WARD: So Melissa, can you just tell us what -- what was Kim Kardashian doing online before this robbery took place?
BELL: Well, of course, her life, as we've just been hearing, is incredibly public. In fact, the part of what went missing, which was this ring that
was given to her last summer, everyone's seen the picture of it. It's been tweeted a thousand times on her finger.
And she's been posting pictures of herself attending Fashion Paris -- a Paris Fashion Week event. So clearly, for such a publicized couple,
everything about them is known, including things like the rings she's wearing at any particular time.
But just going back to what was just being said, I think the other reason this is such a huge story, Clarissa, is that this incredibly powerful media
couple, that the whole world kind of watches, suddenly seemed slightly fragile. I mean, what happened to Kim Kardashian here last night -- here
was a woman, a mother of two in the end (ph), locked in a bathroom on her own with no security detail (ph) around her and armed men in her room.
And I think that that's something that speaks to people a great deal, whether or not they are fans of the Kardashians. Suddenly, they seem that
bit more human, that bit more vulnerable.
And I think that's given this story a tremendous impact that perhaps not a (ph) story the Kardashians have ever been involved in before had had.
WARD: Indeed. Melissa Bell, Chloe Melas, thank you so much for being on. Still come -- to come tonight, it took exactly 100 days, but Britain now
has a plan for Brexit.
We'll be live at the ruling Conservative Party's annual conference for more. And in Germany, she was there to remember the nation's reunification
years ago.
But protestors were there, too, demanding Angela Merkel resign. Why they're so angry, next.
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The U.S. State Department has just announced it is calling off further discussions with Russia over a ceasefire in Syria. That ceasefire
collapsed weeks ago.
Inside, Syria opposition activists say, at least seven people were killed when suspected bunker buster (ph) bombs hit Eastern Aleppo's biggest
hospital. These photographs show you some of the damage.
The activists say the hospital is now out of services. It's the third attack on that hospital in less than a week. And another case of the
diplomatic stress between Russia and the U.S., Russia has suspended a nuclear weapons fuel disposal agreement signed during the Clinton
administration.
The Kremlin says it is changing course because of what it calls unfriendly actions by the U.S. Now, it's been just over 100 days since Britain's vote
to cut ties with the European Union.
Since then, the nation and the rest of Europe had been wondering when the Brexit process will begin. Now, we have an answer. Prime Minister Theresa
May says formal negotiations will start by next March.
They could take more than two years with Brexit actually occurring in 2019. Britain's chancellor spoke about the upcoming talks.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMOND: This isn't only a challenge for British businesses. It's a challenge for many businesses across the European Union. And negotiating a
pragmatic solution which allows workers in factories, in Britain, in Italy and Germany to carry on producing the goods they produce is in everybody's
interest.
And that's what we'll be negotiating to achieve.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: Let's go now to Birmingham, England. Our Max Foster is at the Tory Party Conference, where Mrs. May announced the Brexit timetable.
Max, we heard some words of -- of turbulence possibly coming from the chancellor but Prime Minister May seems keen to stay on the -- the
timetable she proposed. What is the reaction there?
FOSTER: Well, there's lots of reaction. There's lots of talk about a soft Brexit versus a hard Brexit, some people saying that's the media construct.
But the idea of Britain leaving the European Union completely and then renegotiating any sort of ties with it is one scale of the spectrum. And
the -- the way that Theresa May's speech was interpreted by many was seen as that -- that hard Brexit more than a soft Brexit, which is retaining a
relationship with the European Union, particular the single market and renegotiating perhaps around that freedom of movement of people, which was
such a big issue in the referendum campaign.
She was up there (ph) and she had to convince a lot of people within her own party, because David Cameron put together this referendum to -- to try
to bring his (ph) party together, is now (ph), to Theresa May to -- to make that happen really. And there are these splits on how the referendum will
be handled.
And one of the people she had to convince was Lord Ashcroft. He used to be the deputy party chairman of the conservative party, also a big party
donor.
And a lot of people look to you for leadership within the party. So what did you make of Theresa May's speech and also the chancellor today?
MICHAEL ASHCROFT, FORMER DEPUTY CHAIRMAN, CONSERVATIVE PARTY: I think Theresa May, for the first time, set out a path towards Brexit. It'll be a
path that some people will not like, others will.
But at least we now have a sense of direction in which we will go. And to that extent, we're on our way. And part of it, I don't recognize hard
Brexit or soft Brexit.
The first thing that we have to do is to incorporate within U.K. law all the E.U. regulations that we have had to abide by. And that is -- that
will be down in the great appeal act that will go through parliament.
Then the second thing is to start drawing in (ph) some of your red lines. And part of the red lines that Theresa outlined yesterday were taking back
control of our borders.
There'd be no further payments into the European Union. And freedom of movement will be restricted, which doesn't mean that everyone will be
excluded from the United Kingdom because if we need certain professional or other people in, they can go through the process of getting a permit to
come.
So she lays that down and then says that we are quite happy to have a free trade agreement, Mr. (ph) E.U. Now, what is your position? And from a
negotiating point of view, I think that's a strong position in which to start.
If you start softing (ph) and say, oh, well, we could have a little bit of freedom of movement, we could have this, we could have that, trying to
negotiate with the rest of the E.U. countries, 27 or 28 of them, I think would bog the process down within the two-year period.
FOSTER: But they already -- well, the commission, at least, has already pretty much put down its own red line. If the (ph) -- if they do want
access, if Britain does want access to the European single market, they have to allow freedom of movement of people.
So there are two very distinct red lines there. And they (ph) couldn't be clearer on either side. So how do you negotiate the (ph)...
(CROSSTALK)
ASHCROFT: That's -- that's -- that's if you believe that each side holds on to that red line. I think even the U.S. president once said there was a
red line in Syria on the use of chemical weapons.
And they went over that line. And nothing happened. So the -- the red lines are the initial markers (ph) to there (ph). If the E.U. insists that
there has to be freedom of movement, then I suspect we'll come to the end of the two-year period and we will leave without -- without an agreement.
But on the other hand, pressure will come on some of the exporters from the European Union, who export more to Britain than we do to the European
Union. You know, what about Mercedes Benz, their cars coming into the U.K., the Tulip valve (ph) producers...
(CROSSTALK)
FOSTER: So logic will prevail effectively?
ASHCROFT: Well, pressure, logic, and you will start off in that -- that position.
FOSTER: And the commission will come under pressure from businesses and communities within Europe to negotiate?
ASHCROFT: Of course.
FOSTER: One of the key questions for you is you famously withdrew funding effectively in the Conservative Party, weren't quite sure of its (ph)
direction. Are you ready now because of what Theresa may have said to start funding the party again and start being a major donor?
ASHCROFT: Well, I -- I think having had the uncertainty of Brexit, the referendum, the few heavy things said on both sides, but the -- the British
public voted to leave. And now, we have a change of prime minister who has accepted the verdict of the British people, setting out an agenda for the
next few years.
And I, like many other businessmen, are now quite happy to come back and support the Conservative Party because we can now see a direction rather
than what some of us saw as something that was rather -- rather...
(CROSSTALK)
FOSTER: So you are going to start donating again to the party?
ASHCROFT: I would expect to do so.
FOSTER: Lord Ashcroft, thank you very much indeed.
So you heard it here first, Clarissa, Lord Ashcroft, back donating to the party as a result of that speech.
WARD: Thank you so much, Max Foster. And in fact, just a short time ago, I spoke to Nigel Farage, one of the leaders of the Leave Campaign and asked
him about Theresa May's Brexit timetable.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FARAGE: Well, look, you know, I do understand that a new prime minister, new ministers of state, need to get their ducks in a row, get their teams
in place. But I can't quite see why, you know, we need to wait another five months to trigger Article 50 (ph). I would have thought it could be
and should be done a bit sooner than that.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: Later in the show, we'll have more of that interview with Nigel Farage, in which he speaks about Brexit, Trump, and his plan to attend the
new -- the next U.S. presidential debate. German Chancellor Angela Merkel didn't get a warm welcome in Dresden.
In fact, hundreds of right-wing protesters came out to demand her resignation. She was in Dresden with other German leaders to celebrate the
anniversary of Germany's reunification.
The protesters said (ph) they're outraged about Merkel's welcoming policy for migrants. And we're learning that Hungary's recent referendum against
immigration is invalid.
A majority of voters decided to reject the migrant code as set by the E.U. But not enough people came out to the polls. Officials say they didn't get
the 50 percent turnout that would make the vote legally binding.
Prime Minister Victor Orban is still holding the vote up as a victory and a show of Hungarian unity against the E.U.'s policies. Coming up, more bad
news for Donald Trump as his foundation is slapped with an order to cease and desist.
We'll explain. Plus Iraqi militias advancing on Mosul but there is one last town they'll have to capture from ISIS first, a progress report from
Iraq.
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WARD: Welcome back to "The World Right Now." Let's take a look at our stop stories. U.S. presidential hopeful, Hillary Clinton, offers her first
public remarks on Donald Trump, and a report that he may have avoided paying income tax for many years.
She chided her opponent for quote, "living a billionaire's lifestyle while contributing nothing to our nation." Trump apparently took advantage of a
legal rule America's complicated tax code.
Kim Kardashian-West has been led badly shaken but unharmed after she was robbed at gunpoint in a private apartment in Paris. The reality star had a
gun held to her head and $10 million worth of jewelry taken from her by armed men disguised as police.
She has since left the country. We're just hours away from hurricane Matthew, likely making landfall in Haiti, where it could dump as much as
100 centimeters of rain.
This category four storm could prove disastrous there. Haiti's infrastructure still hasn't recovered from the 2010 earthquake.
The trial over the assassination of a prominent critic of Vladimir Putin has begun in Moscow. Five Chechnyans are accused of gunning down Boris
Nemtsov (ph) last year on a bridge just steps away from the Kremlin.
Nemtsov's (ph) daughter says the investigation hasn't revealed who ordered the attack. Donald Trump's foundation has been told to immediately stop
raising money in New York State.
The New York attorney general says the foundation is violating state law for raising money without a permit. It has been handed and ordered to
cease and desist soliciting donations. A spokeswoman for the Trump Foundation said, while we remain very concerned about the political motives
behind Schneiderman's (ph) investigation, the Trump Foundation nevertheless intends to cooperate fully with the investigation.
Because this is an ongoing legal matter, the Trump Foundation will not comment further at this time. Well, CNN's Political Commentator, Michael
Smerconish is in Philadelphia with us.
Michael, help us get a bit of context here (ph). What exactly is behind this move? And what does it mean for Trump?
MICHAEL SMERCONISH, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, each of them, Clarrisa, have had problems with their foundations. I mean, in the
narrative of this campaign for the last six to nine months, there have been allegations about a pay-to-play scheme lying behind the good works of the
Clinton Foundation. But all of a sudden, in the last 30 or so days, and largely because of the reportage of David Farenthold at "The Washington
Post," focus has now been placed on the Trump Foundation.
I think the latest issue, the one that you just referenced is probably the least serious of them because it speaks to the a lack of registration that
was made in New York. And yes, they'll have to cease operations at least in the short term.
But I think that the more serious allegations are those that say, that Donald Trump has used his own foundation to spend other people's money.
And he really has not been so charitable with regard to his own foundation.
WARD: But how much does this actually hurt him because we've seen over and over again that no matter what the scandal, no matter what the criticism,
no matter what the revelation, he appears to be like Teflon? We've seen, obviously, a lot of people talking now about this tax return from 1995,
which was reported by "The New York Times."
Do you think these criticisms or incidents are reaching a critical mass? Or do his supporters simply say we don't care?
SMERCONISH: I think that nothing heretofore has caught up with him. You'll remember that he famously said that he could shoot someone on Fifth
Avenue and he wouldn't lose the support of his basic core (ph).
And I think he's been proven correct. I mean, I have to tell you, I'm one who mistakenly thought that when he ridiculed John McCain a war hero -- an
American war hero who served as a POW in Vietnam, I thought that Donald Trump would sink like a stone.
But that core (ph) group that supports him shows no sign of going away. And frankly, I think what unifies them is not so much their support for
Donald Trump as their opposition for Hillary Clinton, but the tax issue -- the tax issue that you just referenced that was brought forth this weekend
by "The New York Times" that seemingly supports the view that he hasn't paid taxes for many, many years, that might be different because it really
puts him at odds from the white working class workers with whom they lack a college degree.
He has a 59 percent margin of -- of success over Hillary Clinton. I can't imagine that it sits well with them, that if they're struggling in this
economy, he hasn't been paying taxes.
WARD: And also, you talk about his core group. But has he actually been able to broaden his support at all? And does he need to in order to win
this election?
The polls would seem to indicate yes.
SMERCONISH: Well, I think that he absolutely does. If I can hit you with a quick data point, it would be this -- George Herbert Walker Bush, in
1992, received 59 percent of the white vote.
And it earned him 426 electoral votes. And for our foreign friends, the key number is 270. Well, Mitt Romney, in 2012 got the exact same
percentage of the white vote, 59 percent.
But it only earned him 206 electoral votes. What does that speak to? The changing demographic of America and the need to broaden one's tent (ph).
And Donald Trump has not done that thus far. So he has a core constituency. But unless he grows it, I don't think that he can get to the
requisite, 270 electoral votes.
WARD: Stay with me, Michael, because it also hasn't been a perfect week for Clinton. And I want our viewers to take a quick listen to some leaked
audio of her speaking about campaign promises of her former rival, Bernie Sanders.
And then we'll come back to you to get some perspective. Take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CLINTON: Some are new to politics completely. They're children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parent's basement.
They feel that they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don't
see much of a future.
And so if you're feeling that you're consigned to, you know, being a barista or, you know, some other job that doesn't pay a lot and doesn't
have much of a ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe -- just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty
appealing."
WARD: I mean, Michael, it sounds patronizing. How much does this hurt her?
SMERCONISH: When I first heard this story, it was through print. And I didn't hear it. And I thought, boy, this will be problematic because the
reference to millennials living in their parents' basement or working as baristas, does sound patronizing.
When I actually heard the audio and everybody can be their own judge, I -- I thought that the tone of her voice was -- was different. I don't think
that she was denigrating.
I don't think that she was making fun so much as trying to paint a picture of the modern realities of some of our twenty-somethings. Now, Trump
quickly tried to seize this and tried to make an appeal to the Bernie Sanders constituency because that's who those folks are.
But notably, Clarissa, Bernie Sanders has come to Hillary's defense on this. And I think he'll probably be able to staunch any of the bleeding.
WARD: All right, Michael Smerconish, thank you so much for all your insight. In Iraq, Shia-led militias are among the forces preparing to
fight ISIS for the key city of Mosul.
But there is one final ISIS stronghold. They need to retake first, as our Ben Wedeman in Iraq found out.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WEDEMAN: The occasional mortar round keeps the enemy at bay, as do a few blasts of heavy machine gunfire. In the open sparsely populated plains
(ph) of Central Iraq, pro-government paramilitaries with the Shia-led Hashd al-Shaabi (ph), or Popular Mobilization units waged twilight skirmishes
with invisible ISIS fighters.
(UNIDENTIFIED MALE): At night, we also see flashlights and lasers, says fighter, Haidif Saihud (ph). They shoot at us from that area. As soon as
they come in range, we deal with them.
WEDEMAN: This is an area which, by day, Iraqi forces control. But at night, ISIS taking advantage of the darkness comes in. and the Iraqi
forces have to pull back to their isolated positions.
Where is Daesh, I asked Abes (ph), Hashd (ph) commander. "Over there," he says, "and we'll boil them if they come here." The Hashd (ph) is preparing
to lead in offensive from these remote areas against the town of Hawija, an ISIS stronghold that is featured in many propaganda videos.
Hawija is perilously close to the main highway, linking Baghdad with Mosul, a critical supply line, as preparations accelerate for the larger battle to
liberate Iraq's second largest city under ISIS occupation since June 2014.
God-willing, when we get the order to move forward, we'll eliminate them, says Haider (ph), referring to ISIS, then only Mosul would be left. The
Hashd al-Shaabi (ph) role in Mosul operation is unclear.
There are concerns about a Shia-led force entering the predominantly Sunni city. Last month, Haid Lamiri (ph), a Hashd leader, insisted his force
will play a key role in that battle as well.
We will participate in the operation to liberate Mosul, like it or not, said Lamiri (ph), in a (ph) recent parade by his troops. No one can stop
us. More battles to come in the land of seemingly endless war. Ben Wedeman, CNN, Central Iraq.
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WARD: Let's turn now to Afghanistan where a member of parliament says the Taliban has captured the city center of Kunduz. Taliban fighters started
attacking the strategic city early Monday from four different directions.
The Taliban released video on social media, which they say shows their fighters inside Kunduz. Afghan forces fought back but could not keep
militants from entering the city.
Kunduz fell briefly to the Taliban about a year ago, causing embarrassment to the Afghan government. This is "The World Right Now."
It has been 101 days of uncertainty. But has Britain really changed since it voted for Brexit. We sent our own Richard Quest and a camper (ph) van
to find out. And one of the loudest voices for Brexit was Nigel Farage.
Hear what he has to say about Theresa May's timetable and Donald Trump.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
WARD: Sunday saw 100 days since Britain shocked the world and voted to leave the European Union. So Richard Quest decided it was time to take
CNN's camper van (ph), Freddie (ph) Brexit back out onto the streets to see how British manufacturers are navigating unchartered waters.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
QUESAT: A hundred days ago and the forecasts were that Britain was about to fall apart. Since then, like my camper van, Freddie Brexit, Britain has
(ph) kept going.
Big Ben still looms large over Westminster, the lion sit proud in Trafalgar Square. And Churchill guards parliament resuscitated (ph) in 1973 when
Britain entered the E.U. At the Best of Britannia exhibition this weekend, quality British goods were on display.
Some of the craftsmen were gleeful at the post-Brexit boom.
(UNIDENTIFIED MALE): For us, it's been brilliant. We noticed literally two to three days after Brexit was announced and the price of the -- and
the pound went down basically, but we had orders coming through. The phone was ringing off the hook.
The smart time (ph) crazy because we're British from (ph) but we literally have retained (ph) exports. So all the foreign collectors tend to want to
buy our watches.
QUEST: The exhibition was showcasing what Britain does best, like these woolens from Ross Bar (ph).
(UNIDENTIFIED MALE): I just had New Yorkers (ph) last night (ph).
QUEST: His business has been clobbered since the vote. But it's been only been a hundred days.
(UNIDENTIFIED MALE): It's completely an aftermath (ph). I speak (ph) -- I mean, I had a stock, it's my first one. It's national pockets (ph) was in
Berlin, a man's (inaudible).
And the week after Brexit, they canceled their order because they were not sure that they would be able to market a British brand in Germany.
QUEST: Well, it has a certain charm to it, doesn't it? Living with that uncertainty for the next two years is something these companies, large and
small, are going to have to get on with.
June Saopong (ph) was a strong remainder (ph).
(UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE): Beautiful. You've got a good head and hair, by the way.
QUEST: So you mean, it's still there in my head?
(CROSSTALK)
(UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE): Yes, yes.
QUEST: That's what you really mean.
(UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE): I think that at the end of the day, I still don't believe it was the right decision but...
QUEST: Get over it.
(UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE): ...I'm -- it's easier said than done. But we've got to make the most of it. I'm really worried because I think at the end
of the day, there's no guarantee that we're going to remain in a single market.
And if we don't, what does that mean?
QUEST: The British don't need much of an excuse to be eccentric. At the classic car booth (ph) sale, where British and European beauties were on
display, there was optimism.
(UNIDENTIFIED MALE): Totally, yes, yes. We're -- we're human beings. We're British. Of course, you know, above all, above that, we're a
youthful (ph) nation.
QUEST: The first hundred days have been best described as a phony war, Britain and Europe feeling each other out. The next six months is when it
starts to get really interesting.
And Britain's Brexit battle truly gets under way. Richard Quest, CNN London.
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WARD: Prime Minister Theresa May says negotiations for Britain's withdrawal from the E.U. will start by the end of March next year. She was
speaking at her party's annual conference Sunday, and gave her reasons for that timetable.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MAY: It was quite (ph) right to wait before triggering Article 50. But it is also right that we should not let things drag on too long.
Having voted to leave, I know that the public will soon expect to see on the horizon the point at which Britain does formally leave the European
Union. So let me be absolutely clear, should (ph) be no unnecessary delays in invoking Article 50.
We will invoke it when we are ready. And we will be ready soon. We will invoke Article 50 no later than the end of March next year.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: Nigel Farage was one of the leading voices calling for Brexit. I spoke to him earlier and began by asking him what he thought of Mrs. May's
plan.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FARAGE: Well, look, you know, I do understand that a new prime minister, new ministers of state, need to get their ducks in a row, get their teams
in place. But I can't quite see why, you know, we need to wait another five months to trigger Article 50.
I would have thought it could be and should be done a bit sooner than that.
WARD: But she did seem to come out pretty forcefully for what would look like a hard Brexit with a real emphasis on the need to curve the freedom of
movement, freedom of labor. Do you feel happy at least with the tone, if not, the pace?
FARAGE: Oh, look, I think the presentation was very, very good and very, very clever. You know, talk of the great repeal act, when we get rid of
the 1972 piece of legislation which took us into the European communities, it all sounded great.
But what we haven't had really is any substance. I was pleased that she said we have to get back control of our borders. That bit's good.
I have no doubt that by the spring of -- of '19, we will be out of the European Union, but whether we've managed to get the right deals for our
fisheries (ph), whether we really have proper control of our borders, I think remains to be seen.
WARD: Are you concerned, though, about the economics of this? You heard also from the Chancellor of Exchequer, Phil Hammond, he was saying, we're
in for a turbulent time, a bit of a rollercoaster, how worried are you or are you worried at all that this will have a significant impact on the
British economy?
FARAGE: Well, I think in terms of the global economy, Brexit is a pretty small issue. I think the state of the Italian banks and perhaps even the
situation of Deutsche Bank, you know, is likely to have a bigger shock effect than anything concerned with Brexit.
I mean, look, it's very simple. All we did on June the 23rd was vote to be a normal country. And normal countries make their own laws, control their
own borders and crucially, make their own trade deals.
Now, to me, it is obvious that the European Union has dozens of trade deals all over the world without the free movement of people. Why on earth would
they not want a similar deal with us, their biggest export market in the world?
WARD: There are warning signs there, I mean, you've heard recently from Nissan asking the government for some kind of a financial guarantee.
Should they face those tariffs that you mentioned?
We heard the Italian prime minister come out recently and say, there is no way Britain's going to get a better deal here than other non-E.U.
countries.
FARAGE: Well, as I said to you, dozens of non-E.U. countries have a free trade deal with the European Unions. I think Mr. Renzi, you know, at least
(ph) have to look a bit wider (ph) of what the E.U. does.
As for Nissan, as for the others, yes, they're looking for export credits if tariffs get imposed. We're nowhere near that stage at this moment in
time.
And I would just remind people that actually, even the maximum cost of tariffs under World Trade Organization rules is lower than our net
contribution to be part of the European Union. So I'm not fearful about our relationship with Europe.
But I'm really optimistic and bullish about our relationship with the rest of the world. We've been held back, stock as part (ph) of an outdated
customs union, banned from making our own trade agreements across the emerging economies.
And that, once we're free, is what we have to do.
WARD: You talk about relations with the rest of the world. I want to ask you about your relationship with one man in particular, the Republican
presidential nominee, Donald Trump.
Is it true that you may be joining him on another campaigning event?
FARAGE: There's been an overall speculation -- acres of news coverage, even reports that I flew to America on Friday -- all not true. I am coming
back to the States.
I will be there for the second debate which takes place this Sunday. And I should be there as a commentator. At the moment, there's nothing in the
diary in terms of more campaign events.
WARD: And why do you see him as the preferable candidate?
FARAGE: I see Hillary Clinton as being that continuity candidate that represents the politics, the Brexit vote, in a sense, in our country, said
it was time to change.
I -- I do not believe, under Hillary Clinton, anything would change at all. Big business will continue with its dominance.
And I think there are many people -- many millions of people in America, ordinary workers, who just have not been getting a fair deal over the last
few years. And -- and I think America...
(CROSSTALK)
WARD: And you think Donald Trump is going to give them a fairer deal? Do you think big business is going to take a hit from Donald Trump?
FARAGE: What I think is this, you know, Trump represents nation-state democracy. He recognizes the importance of controlling immigration, of
controlling borders in an age of international terrorism.
And on the economics of it, the thing that I find appealing is his idea, Ronald Reagan (ph), all those years ago, to cap taxes to increase
incentives. I think he is -- and you know, there may -- there may be things he stands for that -- that will be different to my perspective.
But I do think that he is the candidate for change.
WARD: And final thought, I just would like to hear, what do you make of his campaigning style and his debating style?
FARAGE: Well, I think he -- he gets people talking. He gets people thinking. He says things that the Washington elite wouldn't dare to do.
And maybe that's why so many people watched that first presidential debate. He's got people who perhaps haven't voted for years once again interested
in democracy.
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WARD: You're watching, this "The World Right Now." China is tuning out western influences. And that's having a big impact on popular T.V. shows.
We'll tell you what's on the ban list and why when we come back.
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WARD: Now, what do a woman's cleavage, a Korean pop star and a bottle of beer have in common? Well, they are all banned from China's T.V. screens.
Beijing recently issued new guidelines forcing -- forcing shows to censor content that they believe promote so-called Western lifestyles. Matt
Rivers reports.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
RIVERS: When the popular Chinese drama, "The Saga of Wuza Tien (ph)" was abruptly pulled from the air in January of last year, the government said
it was for technical reasons. But when the show was broadcast again, millions of fans immediately noticed something a bit different.
Maybe you did, too. The ever present cleavage of female characters was gone, fallen victim to digital zooms and close-ups. Such is life in the
world of Chinese media where strict government censorship controls many things beyond just cleavage.
New regulations say shows that promote Western lifestyles are no good, quote, "foreign-inspired shows" are also a problem. Media reports say
Chinese T.V. stations were warned to put South Korean projects on hold, after a U.S.-backed missile defense system was announced there, a move
Beijing doesn't like.
No shows featuring the children of celebrities are allowed either. This show, "Dad, Where are We Going," did that. Now, it's canceled.
Plus any displays of homosexuality are forbidden. An internet show about a relationship between two teenage boys was quickly pulled in February
despite getting 10 million views in just one day after its release.
The following things are also banned -- joking about Chinese traditions or quote, "classic material," sensationalizing private affairs, relationships,
or family disputes, or putting stars, Internet celebrities, or billionaires on a pedestal. You also can't show anyone drinking a beer, although to be
fair, I can't do that on CNN either, you can't show anyone lighting up a cigarette.
And finally, you can't show anyone traveling through time. Yes, even time travel can't escape Chinese censors. Some of these restrictions might seem
odd.
And you could spend all day speculating why they're in place. But don't expect an official explanation of the logic behind them. The government
here rarely shares its motivations.
So for now, no Western influence, no time travel, no cleavage and no stated reason why. Matt Rivers, CNN Beijing.
WARD: And finally tonight, we turn to the late night laughs over the U.S. presidential race. "Saturday Night Live's" new season kicked off this
weekend.
And that means new political parodies. The satirical sketch comedy show has 16-time host, Alec Baldwin to stand in as Donald Trump until the
election, and recent Emmy Award winner Kate McKinnon is reprising her role as Hillary Clinton.
But the show didn't just lampooned the candidates. Indeed, everyone was fair game.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SANDERS (ph): Senator Clinton is the prune juice of this election. She might not seem that appetizing but if you don't take her now, you're going
to be clogged with crap for a very long time.
(LAUGHTER)
(APPLAUSE)
CLINTON (ph): He hasn't released his tax returns, which means he's either not that rich...
TRUMP (ph): Wrong.
CLINTON (ph): ...not that charitable...
TRUMP (ph): Wrong.
CLINTON (ph): ...or he's never paid taxes in his life.
TRUMP (ph): Warmer (ph).
(LAUGHTER)
(UNIDENTIFIED MALE): OK, now, you sure you're OK with Hillary beign president instead of you
CLINTON (ph): I mean, I can't wait, believe me (ph), I freaking love the White House.
(LAUGHTER)
I mean, you know, I can hang out there, you know, no presidential stuff to do.
(LAUGHTER)
Red phone rings, and I say, hey, you take that one, honey? I'll be downstairs watching the "Police Academy."
(LAUGHTER)
TRUMP (ph): Can you hear that? It's picking up. Somebody's sniffing here. I think it's her sniffs. She's been sniffing all night.
Testing, testing, China, China.
(LAUGHTER)
Huge China.
(LAUGHTER)
(UNIDENTIFIED MALE): Secretary Clinton, what do you think about that?
CLINTON (ph): I think I'm going to be president.
(APPLAUSE)
WARD: And this has been "The World Right Now." Thank you for watching. "Quest Means Business" is up next.
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