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[00:00:15] HANNAH VAUGHAN JONES, CNN ANCHOR: Hello and welcome. I'm Hannah Vaughan Jones sitting in for Hala Gorani. And this is a special
extended edition of HALA GORANI TONIGHT.
This hour's top story, Zimbabwe is just hours away from swearing in its new interim president. And on the eve of that ceremony, we've learned that
former President Robert Mugabe and his wife Grace will remain in the country. They were both granted immunity as part of Mugabe's deal to leave
office after 37 years in power.
The man who will succeed him is the man who fired (ph) a few weeks ago former Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa who got all those cheers upon
returning to Zimbabwe on Wednesday.
But that country's main opposition leading is skeptical that Mnangagwa will usher in democracy. Here is what Morgan Tsvangirai told CNN's Christiane
Amanpour.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MORGAN TSVANGIRAI, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF ZIMBABWE Knowing Emmerson Mnangagwa, his character, he will have to work very hard to change his
character so that he can define the future of the country and define his future as a democrat, as a reformer. That I doubt. But at the same time,
he knows that he cannot continue on the same path that Mugabe has traveled and still expect the population to respect him.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VAUGHAN JONES: Well, our Farai Sevenzo has been in the capital Harare all week long joints me live from there.
Farai, it's an enormous honor, a huge burden of responsibility now to full on Mnangagwa's shoulders. Morgan Tsvangirai doesn't think he is up to it.
Do the majority of Zimbabweans think he is?
FARAI SEVENZO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, Hannah, Mr. Tsvangirai, it is preserved of the opposition to doubt anything that people in the
country do. But in this case, he has got a point about Mr. Emmerson Mnangagwa's fearsome reputation.
Don't forget he is known as "the crocodile" for his uncompromising way of dealing with things. He was of course by some government side (ph) for
many, many decades. But let's consider his speech, his 12 minutes just yesterday when he arrived back to the (inaudible) approvals. And you heard
them saying, you know, (inaudible) forward with unity.
There was -- I watched the speech very carefully, Hannah. He seemed to be trying to give up this message of a softer, gentler kind of more considered
leader. He spoke a lot about God and need to say the God is looking up to Zimbabwe. God loves the people and therefore God let the people speak and,
you know, that is what the message that came out of the protest on Saturday and everything else to go that way. And also, he spoke mainly to use other
PF people.
Now, when we are in the township today, one young man said to me. Look, we understand that it is just different feet in the same shoes. And
considering that the armies of 0:03:20.2, we can also say the same boots. But we're trying to get right, he is perfectly right in saying that he will
have not to walk at the same path that his predecessor has walked, and that's what the nation is trying to find out Hannah.
VAUGHAN JONES: The other thing that he has spoke about specifically jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, desperate he were and happen without work for so, so long
now. It's an economic mountain to climb to try to get this country back on a level 40, and what can he realistically deliver on in the short term?
SEVENZO: In the short-term, he can do away with the kind of policies Robert Mugabe was Mugabe was pursuing, you know, despite all advice even
from within his own party. For example, his indigenization policies, there's a dispute about mining rifle for different Australian people who
would try to of a mine that approximately that. And he can do away with the business of bureaucracy and red tape for those who wish to do business.
These are things he can do very soon after he is signing it. But more importantly, he has been tying, even in his speech yesterday to say that,
you know, Zimbabwe is open for business. And he needs to would as investors. And again, not travel the same part but his speed this is a
(inaudible).
And because that everyone is waiting for Zimbabwe to kick off because it has, you know, Hannah, an awful lot of potential. But the industry has a
shot and young grudges have no jobs, and these are real challenges, but he must take on. And of course, people are wondering will he include the
position. The brilliant minds like the former Finance Minister Tendai Biti, will he talk throughout the Zimbabwe. And of course, people are also
asking what about the whole diaspora of Zimbabweans.
[00:05:07] I live between Nairobi and London, many Zimbabweans live in Johannesburg and Cape Town, others are far few, there's Australia. And
these are old talented people who has something to offer for the country and yet they have no votes. So Zimbabweans today, you know, and hash tag
that was very popular, of court, what (inaudible) wants.
You know, it talks about all these issues of social media will they give the desperate a vote for example. Be we are long way from that, Mr.
Mnangagwa has to try unify a nation that has been deeply divided by the continued presence of Robert Mugabe on the political scene.
VAUGHAN JONES: Farai Sevenzo will speak to you again shortly. Farai, we appreciate it for now. Thank you.
Now, let's turn to the South Atlantic where an ominous new clue has come to light in a search for the Argentine Navy's missing submarine. There that
has been no contact since he was last seen little more than a week ago and now the Navy says, a sound recorded at the time of the sub's disappearance
sounded like an explosion. There are a lot of family members still hoping desperately for any sort of positivity news. Let's turn to Stefano
Pozzebon has the latest first now from the submarine's home base in Mar del Plata.,
Stefano, some news but far from positive news if, indeed, an explosion did take place?
STEFANO POZZEBON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Hannah. Sad news certainly, not certain news and the Argentina Navy aid so far using to confirm the worst-
case scenario, which he said ARA San Juan has been lying on the bottom of the ocean since that 0:06:45.4 on 15th of November when he lost contact
with its own base here in Mar del Plata.
But as you said, they focus now on turns on the families, on the relatives and friends of all those 43 men and one woman who had been waiting for
their dearest to come back home, and have gone through variety of emotions. And you can that just behind me, all those flags, Hannah were hailed with
messages of hope, messages of expectations that we aiming at the -- waiting for the return of the crews.
The mood changed dramatically this morning here in Mar del Plata when the Argentina first confirm that noise, that it said, is consistent with an
explosion. And we were able to speak with one relative, the wife of one off the -- some of them also (ph) who had some pretty strong words to say.
Have a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
(FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): They did not tell us that they are dead, but that's a logical assumption. Since Wednesday, they are
there. These (inaudible) knew it.
They did not give an explanation. They said that according to them, they now know. But how did they now know? How can they know that? I felt
cheated. They haven't been located, but they talk about them being down 3000 meters. They don't tell us anything that I tell you that their
wretched. They manipulated us.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
POZZEBON: On the detail out, we were able to speak with her (ph) just yesterday, and her words were -- her mood was completely different. She
was saying that she was happy, by the way, that the Navy was communicating with her and with the other relatives about providing the information of
what they thought they knew about the ARA San Juan. And she was confident and hopeful that she would have been able to hug and welcome her husband
back.
As you can see, the mood has changed dramatically here in Mar del Plata, Hannah.
VAUGHAN JONES: And it certainly has, Stefano, and the search though and the hopeful rescue operation goes on. And the search area, as I understand
it, is vast. I mean, we're talking about an area, the size of Spain.
POZZEBON: Exactly. The search area is very vast and the same time, we're talking about stormy seas. Argentinian is entering -- is just coming out
of the winter season here. We are south of the equator. And the stormy seas in Southern Atlantic Ocean, are not something to joke with. And most
specifically, the seas over where the San Juan has last lost contact with the home base are very deep. We're talking about seas that are as deep as
2 kilometers down.
So if the submarine is indeed in the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, it's really a very serious and tragic situation, Hannah.
VAUGHAN JONES: Stefano, that's for staying across the story for us and we speak to you later on in the program again. Stefano Pozzebon for us live
for us there in Argentina, thank you.
OK. Still to come tonight, thousands of desperate injured Muslims may soon be able to go home. But will their return include any basic rights and
protections? And disturbing information from a North Korean defector, how his medical condition is revealing, but life may will be like for many in
the hermit kingdom.
[00:10:01] That is all ahead.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
VAUGHAN JONES: Welcome back. Myanmar says it has signed an agreement that may lead to repatriation of thousands of Rohingya refugees from Bangladesh.
Pressure from the United States may have helped to secure that deal, bit the future safety of this stateless Muslim minority is far from certain.
Our Ivan Watson has the details.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
IVAN WATSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: After months of immense suffering, allegations of appalling atrocities as well as the exodus of more than
600,000 Rohingya Muslims across the border from Myanmar to neighboring Bangladesh. Now, government officials from both countries have announced
an agreement for the repatriation of these refugees. We don't have a timeframe yet. We don't have real details about how this could be
implemented, but this is a sign of a step towards both governments trying to come to some resolution of this crisis.
Now, it is not clear also what fresh diplomatic pressure from the US government, what will that may have played in pushing both governments to
announcing this repatriation agreement. For the first time, the US Secretary of State has used very tough language against the Myanmar
government over this crisis. Rex Tillerson issuing a statement that said, "These abuses by some among the Burmese military security forces and local
vigilantes have caused tremendous suffering and forced hundreds of thousands of men, women and children to flee their homes in Burma to seek
refuge in Bangladesh." He went on to say, "It's clear that the situation in northern Rakhine state constitutes ethnic cleansing against the
Rohingya."
The Myanmar government has flatly denied accusations that it security forces have engaged in what one US State Department official described as
systematic, planned and organized ethnic cleansing.
If there's going to be a repatriation program, implementation will be key, will traumatize people, dare to go back to their home villages. Some of
which have been burned, will any of them have any documentation left to prove that they once lived in Myanmar. In the agreement, it's not clear
whether it will get to the crux of the crisis, which is that historically, the Myanmar government refuses to recognize the citizenship, the citizen
rights of this community of Rohingya Muslims, denying them access to healthcare, education and even the rights to travel freely within the
borders of that country.
Ivan Watson, CNN, Hong Kong.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAUGHAN JONES: Ivan, thank you.
A young North Korean soldier who risked his life escaping to South Korea is providing doctors with some dramatic insight into the health problems in
the secretive state.
[00:15:03] During his treatment for multiple gunshot wounds, doctors also discovered that the soldier suffered from parasitic worms and chronic liver
infection. Anna Coren has the story of his daring escape.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
ANNA COREN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And disparate run for freedom. This video shows the dramatic moment a 24-year-old North Korean soldier left his post
last week, running across the demilitarized zone, the DMZ that divides North and South Korea. It's one of the most heavily fortified borders in
the world. First in a jeep then on foot, he is pursuit by his own comrades. They fire more than 40 shots. Doctor saying he was hit at least
four times before reaching safety.
These scenes captured on CCTV, were played at a news conference in Seoul. The U.N. command says that as the North Korean pursuit the defector, they
violated an armistice agreement between the two Koreas. The armistice dates back to 1953 with a cease-fire between the North and South, that the
war has now officially ended.
US FORCES KOREA claim the North Korean People's Army or KPIA fired across the Military Demarcation Line, and that one soldier crossed it briefly
during the incident.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
COL. CHAD CARROLL, SPOKESPERSON, UNC: USC personnel at the JSA notified KPA of these violations today through our normal communication channels in
Panmunjom and requested a meeting to discuss our investigation and measures to prevent for such violations.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COREN: When the North Korean soldier arrived here at Ajou University Hospital on the outskirts of Seoul, he already lost more than 50 percent of
his blood and was unconscious with barely a pulse. Doctors say he'd suffered gunshot wounds to his chest, shoulder, arms and abdomen. And by
the time he reached the operating theater, he was almost dead.
And in his intestines, doctors found large parasitic worms, one merely a foot long. After multiple surgeries, doctors say he is now conscious and
able to talk.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): He and I have spoken a lot, and I feel that this North Korean soldier defected to South Korea of his own
will.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COREN: The soldier is a third member of the North Korean Armed Forces to defect this year.
Anna Coren, CNN, Seoul.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAUGHAN JONES: Still to come on the program this evening, Facebook's new tool marks, a big push for transparency on the site, but will like the
results? And the stores taking window shopping to a whole new level, we check out the new retailers paying top dollar to get customers through the
door. And all of that is coming out on HALA GORANI TONIGHT.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
VAUGHAN JONES: Facebook has introduced a new photo that let user see whether they interacted with Russian propaganda around the 2016
presidential election, either on Facebook or if you done that Instagram. The tool allows account holders to see which pages they liked or followed
with links to the internet research agency. That's a troll from with ties to the Russian government.
Well, a short time ago I spoke to our CNN Technology Correspondent Samuel Burke, and it begun by asking him who will get to use this tool and who
won't.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
SAMUEL BURKE, CNN TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: And this is a lot of people scratching their heads because on the surface, you take a look at this tool
and you think, "Oh, this is great. Facebook is gonna let us all know who saw this Russia linked content."
[00:20:07] But if you read between the lines, what you realized is that Facebook is only going to show this tool to people who click like or follow
these pages. But, of course, they paid to serve up ads to many more people than that. You do not have to like a page in order to see if a sponsored
post from it, so there was a much larger group who saw this content coming from St. Petersburg. But only a small group is to find out about it if
Facebook launches this tool the way they say they are.
VAUGHAN JONES: And how big of a group are we talking about here? I mean, how big is the scope of these Russian ads? Who do they reach?
BURKE: Well, at first, Facebook told the press in the US Congress that it was only 10 million people in the US who saw this. Then the number jumped
to 126 million people, and later on when you include Facebook and Instagram, all part of the same company.
They finally told us it was 150 million American is in it, that is the size of the entire US electorate plus some.
VAUGHAN JONES: Right.
BURKE: Keep in mind also, you and I have talked about the evidence that CNNMoney has found and show the audience that there was also these very
same account spreading information around Brexit here in the UK. So a lot of people are saying, why would you only show this to a small group in the
US, why not the entire US if not people in very many countries.
VAUGHAN JONES: Yes, because there are so many other countries across Europe as well. Not just Britain with Brexit, with German elections,
French elections as well. People who say that their electoral system was somehow tampered with as well, people were influenced.
What is the answer? What is put to Facebook? Why don't you just make this tool come in place for all uses?
BURKE: No answer. They have said that this is how they are going to do it. And maybe they are having their Thanksgiving meals and will find out
more after that. But so far, I think what some people are reading these ads, as they do not want to tell everybody because this would be a huge
portion of their audience in the United States, not their full 2 billion users.
But imagine if everybody really were able to grasp, oh, this is a message on Facebook that shows this to me. So I think what it appears to be right
now is just showing the people who work directly getting that information. But if you saw one of these ads, it's all the same, at least in my eyes.
VAUGHAN JONES: The press is really ramping up there right on Silicon Valley execs at the moment. They've been on Capitol Hill. It's being
quizzed by lawmakers. These lawmakers are saying what we're dealing with here cyber warfare. So things are going to have to change, surely.
BURKE: This isn't a question just for the social media platforms, this is the question of democracy, how we function and do we let other people from
outside, not just the United States but the United Kingdom any country come in and influence our allegiance.
Now, Adam Schiff, who is the ranking member on the U.S. House Intelligence Committee, who's been leading the investigation into how the social media
platforms were used in the 2016 elections and the U.S. says, that this is a positive step, but that the social media networks need to do much more so
we can get a fuller clear, more transparent image of just exactly what was coming to Russia and United States. And then, hopefully, all of us outside
the United States can have that clear, that we can analyze what's happened in elections and other places as well.
VAUGHAN JONES: All right. Well, we'll we wait to see if Facebook open up this tool to all of their many, many users. Samuel, thank you very much,
indeed.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAUGHAN JONES: Samuel Burke, speaking to me earlier on.
Now, it's an important -- lavish window display stores are doing all they can to do in customers. CNN's Clare Sebastian has more now on the fight
for those precious holiday shopping dollars.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
CLARE SEBASTIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In New York's Department Store windows, a festive arms race is underway.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Each store has really pulled out the staff this year, trying to make it better, smarter.
SEBASTIAN: Faith Hope Consolo is New York's self-described "Queen of Retail" is a concept of holiday windows. And at the city's oldest
department store, Lord & Taylor, she's impressed.
FAITH HOPE CONSOLO, QUEEN OF RETIAL, NEW YORK: They always had movement. And they always had the story but nothing as beautiful as this. They only
used to do Fifth Avenue, so they are trying to bring the course traffic, the downtown, the uptown.
SEBASTIAN: And it's the holiday chill, the landscape for this department stores is shifting. Lord & Taylor's parent company, Hudson's Bay recently
announced it's selling this very building to --
CONSOLO: Yes, they've never done like this.
SEBASTIAN: And over at Saks Fifth Avenue, owned by the same company, all 14 of its Fifth Avenue windows, a decked out for the first time, part of in
partnership with Disney. And as for Macy's --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is wanting the assets. These stores are not liabilities or assets. They have to be deployed properly. And you have to
maximize, how you use them. This is one of those ways.
SEBASTIAN: Macy's was the pioneer of New York's holiday windows, and has kept going through economic ups and downs.
[00:25:04] This was 1933 with the US economy still reeling from the Wall Street crash.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think this will be a benchmark type year. Last year, we felt it was heavily promotional. This year, it's going to be heavily
promotional again.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No one is sitting back waiting to roll other promotions out on Friday. They've been doing it on a tactical basis for the last few
weeks.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We see (inaudible), glamour.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Look at the dinosaurs.
SEBASTIAN: At Bergdorf Goodman, they are using cultural institutions to stand out. Is this going to drive traffic into the store?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I hope so. I'm not sure but I think anything different, it has to be difference this year.
VAUGHAN JONES: A window onto an industry when nothing is standing still. Clare Sebastian, CNNMoney, New York.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAUGHAN JONES: Festive promotions there. And there's a festive atmosphere on display at the annual Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in New York.
An estimated 3.5 million people were expected to turn out, in the city. Mind you, the parade comes just three weeks off for terror attack in
Manhattan. The mayor of New York said, there would be much stronger police presence than ever before. But as New Yorkers prove, time and time again,
they are resilient bunch and came out in force to celebrate this most iconic of American holidays.
Still to come on the program this evening, with Robert Mugabe out of power what's his future? We'll be live in Zimbabwe with the latest. Plus, the
search continues for 44 missing sailors and that search is growing desperate. We'll tell you why Argentina's Navy is focusing on a single
unusual sound.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
VAUGHAN JONES: Hello, everyone. I'm Hannah Vaughan Jones sitting in for Hala Gorani. Tonight, we are live from CNN London.
This hour, Mugabe gets immunity. The former Zimbabwean president will get to stay in the country. We'll have all the details and here from
opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai this hour. Also, a grim clue is found in the search for missing submarine. We are live in Argentina for the very
latest.
[00:30:01] Plus, a very Trump Thanksgiving, we'll check in on how the US president is spending his holiday.
Robert Mugabe is out of power, but the military says his safety in Zimbabwe is guaranteed. A spokesman for the defense forces told CNN, they've
reached an agreement with Mugabe and his wife to grant them immunity. It means they can stay in Zimbabwe without facing any charges.
Mugabe has been accused of masterminding attacks from the opposition in the 1980s in which up to 20,000 people were killed. He is also the past been
accused of corruption. Well, former Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa is set to replace Mugabe as the interim president on Friday. Mnangagwa
himself has promise a new opening for Zimbabwe as a democracy, something the leader of the opposition doubts as he told our Christiane Amanpour.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TSVANGIRAI: Knowing Emmerson Mnangagwa, his character, he will have to work very hard to change his character so that he can define the future of
the country and define his future as a democrat, as a reformer. That I doubt. But at the same time, he knows that he cannot continue on the same
path that Mugabe has traveled and still expect the population to respect him.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VAUGHAN JONES: Well, we'll bring you much more from that into you with Morgan Tsvangirai later on in the show. But in the meantime, let's go to
our Farai Sevenzo who is in the Zimbabwean capital, Harare, for us.
Farai, is Emmerson Mnangagwa, the man who will be the next president, is he capable of shedding his crocodile skin in leading this country to any sort
of prosperity?
SEVENZO: Well, you know, there's been an injection of energy in the Zimbabwean leadership since Robert Mugabe stepped away a day or so ago. It
is -- that Emmerson Mnangagwa's wish that do invite investors to bring jobs, jobs, jobs to use his words. And, of course, you must remember that
he is a man who has a fearsome reputation. And he is already begun to try and change that.
He has talked a lot about God, about how God has been looking after Zimbabwe. He keeps on referring to God in his first speech yesterday. We
started about 12 minutes long.
But this is what we went to find out, about the poor areas of variety, mainly end this struggles and we met several young people who told us what
they thought of the new man.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEVENZO: This is Highfield, one of Harare's oldest townships. Robert Mugabe and Joshua Nkomo, the founding fathers of the ruling ZANU-PF have
lived here. Now, it's a strong hold for Morgan Tsvangirai's opposition party. The movement for Democratic change and life here is about survival.
The jobs are informal, mechanics, market women, farmers, and a great deal of unemployed youths hustling.
It's now a traditional passion area Highfield. This is, remember where Robert Mugabe's people did the Operation Murambatsvina, which mean clear
out the fields. And they raise people's houses on (inaudible) that they didn't have planning permission. But they aim really was to smash the
newly formed movement with Democratic change opposition support base which is all over here.
Maxwell (ph) is one of those who had his home destroyed in 2005. The father of three used to be a bank manager. Now, he, likes so many others,
has no job.
MAXWELL (through translation): All these years, I've been working for the bank for 19 years as a manager. (Inaudible) but I have -- nothing to do,
I'm looking around.
SEVENZO: He is desperate for a chance offered to change, freely and fairly.
MAXWELL (through translation): They must -- both of them Mnangagwa, Tsvangirai must come together, work together, bring the reform to election,
proper election to be done. He (inaudible). it's unfair.
SEVENZO: Unfair, because people are so euphoric that right now, incoming President Emmerson Mnangagwa has the edge.
The boys of barber shop are optimistic. In fact, Niasha (ph), George (ph), Maesa (ph) and Arthur (ph) can't even believe they are allowed to speak to
us.
(FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He say in the Mugabe era, if they would be seen like this, they would have been beaten up for talking to us.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's only the people wanted change. So it's their view that this will change, because they want the change.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know what, in Zimbabwe right now seems to be a bit simpler. You just go (inaudible) with this old man.
[00:35:04] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He mean, really is back to normal,
Female: Yes.
SEVENZO: This school goes tell us they also believe the future is suddenly brighter with Robert Mugabe's departure.
Still, in areas like this, poor, ignored and proud, where the real taste of change will be measured.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When it come to election, we choose a new president who will make things very well. I think it's OK that will -- but in the
meantime, people (inaudible) new Zimbabwe.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
SEVENZO: And there you have it, Hannah. People believe -- they really do believe, Hannah, that there's a new Zimbabwe on the horizon. And they are
talking in positive, optimistic terms about what this might bring about.
And I guess, if the new man doesn't take all of this into account that the new freedom people have tasted in the last week, that there are (inaudible)
the right to assembly, and talk, and criticize, and give their opinions, their right of fix and self expression, then the data of course, the young,
these kind of people will not forgive them.
VAUGHAN JONES: Mnangagwa himself has urged calm amongst the Zimbabwe and people. He has urged people to step away from any violent retribution.
This comes on the same day that we've learned that Mugabe, his family, his wife in particular, they have protected themselves, and secure their own
immunity from prosecution.
I'm wondering though if they stay in the country, what will be their faith in the course of public opinion?
SEVENZO: Well, look, their faith in the course of public opinion, Hannah, has long been destroyed, especially when you look back at the events of the
last week. Grace Mugabe, Mr. Mugabe's wife, is despised and that is an understatement. It is believed, I mean, the other thing that these young
people told us on the street is that, she was sent by God to do this, to be so basically better close and belligerence to everybody around her to force
the situation.
But of course, we're not just talking about Grace and Robert Mugabe, there are several minutes as who have fled the country because they were part of
this cabal, what Emmerson Mnangagwa called, you know, the G4, cabal, yesterday in his first speech to the Zimbabwean people. And they are
scattered (inaudible) and they are, basically, the idea that if there are looters and criminals as the army alleged, if they are not put on trial,
people will be watching very closely why that is the case.
Of course, Mr. Mugabe and Mrs. Mugabe escaped and actually why that is, because there's an (inaudible). Emmerson Mnangagwa is a very strong
loyalist to his party. And, of course, whatever touches Mr. Mugabe in terms of prosecution, will also touch him, because he has been with him for
the last four decades.
VAUGHAN JONES: And it will be interesting to see after elections, potentially next year whether Mugabe's faith will still be the same as been
-- has been announced today.
Farai Sevenzo live for us in Harare. Farai, we appreciate it. Thank you.
Argentina's Navy has uncovered a grim clue in its search for missing submarine. A Navy spokesman says, a sound heard near the subs last known
location may have been an explosion. He says, it was short and violent. And he says it was detected on the same day that submarine last made any
contact.
That was more than a week ago and experts are warning if a ship you see here is still intact, will be running out of oxygen. Crews from a dozen
nations have pitched in to help search for the 44 sailors on board. And meanwhile, the crews' families have been gathering at the base where the
submarine was headed in Mar del Plata in Argentina. And Stefano Pozzebon is there for us as well.
Stefano, they say no news is good news, and these news of an explosion must just be the one thing that the families around you will have been dreading
the most.
POZZEBON: Yes, absolutely, Hannah. That's has the news that was a fear for this people for well over a week. Let's just thing about the moments
that they might be going through the floor because they were informed that just after the San Juan lost contact with its own base here in Mar del
Plata. The families were informed that that was happening.
And for a full eight days high tides (ph), so the eight days gap, they were informed that the Navy was bringing forward the most possible, the
strongest possible effort to get it with a several other countries, to bring those relatives to bring those crew members home.
And this morning, they were informed that there has been detected a noise, was detected on the morning, that the San Juan last made contact with its
own base here and that noise is consistent with an explosion.
[00:40:01] So the situation is definitely taking a very darker and tragic here in Mar del Plata, Hannah.
VAUGHAN JONES: And, Stefano, we can see just from speaking to you now that the weather conditions where you are particularly bad and we've also been
showing our viewers same footage of the ongoing search as well. This is a massive search area and under the most treacherous of conditions.
POZZEBON: Yes, absolutely. We had a couple of days on Wednesday and earlier today, when the weather gave a little bit of a break and allowed
even better searching operations. We were informed, for example, on Tuesday even -- and on Wednesday morning that the Navy was hoping to locate
the San Juan, thanks to this break in the serious stormy conditions.
But these hasn't happen yet and the bad weather is increasing here Mar del Plata. And definitely in the search in operation, Hannah, which is several
hundreds of kilometer, southern in more -- in colder waters far closer to the Antarctic. We're talking about an area that is larger than the country
of Spain. We still receives that go as deep as 2000 meters below sea level, so really serious and difficult working addition for the fleet that
is trying desperately working around the clock to locate this submarine before it's definitely too late, Hannah.
VAUGHAN JONES: Stefano, thank you so much for updating us on the story, we appreciate it.
Still to come on the program tonight, President Donald Trump thanked US troops on the Thanksgiving holiday, that also suggests that Americans
should thank him for putting the country on a better part. And from an ISIS training site for child fighters who are thriving school for Syrian
kids, a report from Northern Syria where life is beginning to be rebuilt. Please, stay with us.
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VAUGHAN JONES: It is Thanksgiving in the United States and Donald Trump says Americans have a lot to be thankful for this year, including the
service and sacrifice of their military. President Trump visited the Coast Guard members this morning, thanking them for helping save lives of
hurricanes in Texas, in Florida and, of course, in Puerto Rico
Earlier on, the president spoke via teleconference to troops serving abroad. And Mr. Trump suggested his administration is helping them
succeed. Saying, "They won't letting you win before." He also talked to Twitter to tell Americans that the country is, "Starting to do very well."
He took credit for jobs on the rise, a booming stock market and much, much, more.
Let's bring Jeff Zeleny in West Palm Beach, Florida where President Trump was spending the holiday at his Mar-a-Lago Resort. Jeff, I guess the
Thanksgiving message from the president this year is that Americans should be thankful for their military but also very, very thankful for their
president.
[00:45:00] JEFF ZELENY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Indeed. It was definitely a message of everything that President Trump believes that he has done well
throughout his nearly 1st year in office. But it did start out as significantly as most US presidents do by a recognizing the military.
He was speaking via a video conference with the Marines in Afghanistan, some Army fighters in Iraq, a Navy ship at sea. So he was definitely
praising their work in their efforts, but was also taking credit for a record stock market here in the US. He was also taking a credit for what
he calls a reduction in business regulation that is allowed business to grow and drive.
Of course, a full assessment of that or a fact check of that if you will, would show that he inherited a very strong economy certainly compared to
Barack Obama eight years ago when he was first taking office in January at the beginning of his term in '09. But the President Trump took full credit
for that today as he began a Thanksgiving holiday that is concluding with some time on the golf course before having dinner with his family at Mar-a-
Lago.
VAUGHAN JONES: And, Jeff, staying with all things, Trump, somewhat bizarre timing at Thanksgiving, but the president decided to take on the father of
the college basketball player, calling him an ungrateful fool. Talk us through, why now?
ZELENY: Certainly more grievances being aired on the eve of Thanksgiving yesterday than there was gratefulness in the air. The president early in
the morning started with going after the father of LaVar Ball. Of course, he is one of the fathers of one of the UCLA basketball players who was
arrested in China after allegedly stealing sunglasses a couple weeks ago.
And the president and the father of this basketball player, LaVar Ball, excuse me. I've been going back and forth for several days here but
calling him an ungrateful fool, certainly was a way to, for the president, to set the tone today. But what he was actually doing, we believe just try
to change the subject from so many other things going on, particularly that endorsement that tacit endorsement of Roy Moore, the controversial to say
the least Senate candidate in Alabama.
VAUGHAN JONES: Yes. I was going to ask you about that as well. I mean, this is on a very, very serious note as well. That that the rest of the
staff is perhaps not so serious as you could say. Roy Moore is, of course, just to remind of you as that the candidate for the Senate seat in Alabama.
And he is accused of various allegations of inappropriate sexual behavior involving young women, some of them teenagers.
And the president hasn't exactly endorsed him, but as you said, he tacitly has. Could this backfire politically for President Trump? It certainly
we'll have to find out. I mean, the reason the president did this, we are told simply because all of the, you know, the examples and stories of cases
of sexual harassment and misconduct, they really have bubbled up extraordinarily. So here in the US and indeed around the world over the
last couple weeks.
And initially, the president was sort of watching to see how this Roy Moore situation would unfold. But then, suddenly there are so many other
examples of men and in prominent positions who had lost their jobs. The president, he's thinking was, why should Roy Moore not run for Senate? He
is no different than anyone else. And they also believe that that he can win and they want that Republican vote.
But the key question here is this really puts the president at odds with his own publican party. The top Republican in the Senate, the Senate
Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, he said only a week ago that Roy Moore is not fit to serve in the US Senate. He could still be expelled from the
Senate by a vote of the Senate if he is indeed elected. But the president essentially siding with him accepting his denials that this abuse and
misconduct simply didn't happen.
What we're watching for though is to see if the president actually goes all in to campaign for him in Alabama over the next two weeks before that
special election. It certainly would be an extraordinary thing to do, but it might follow a pattern of this president who, of course, denied all of
the allegations against him during his own campaign by so many women as well.
VAUGHAN JONES: Yes, all right, arrival. Well, no rest of the wicked. Jeff, enjoy the heat there in Florida and many -- well, a happy
Thanksgiving to you too as well. Well, you are having to work unfortunately. Jeff, thank you.
ZELENY: Thank you very much, sure.
VAUGHAN JONES: US Congressman Joe Barton says, he is sorry after sexually explicit photo of himself went viral on Twitter. But the Texas Republican
is raising the possibility that he is the victim of "revenge porn", a criminal act in his state. Earlier, our Congressional Correspondent Sunlen
Serfaty spoke with my colleague, Fredricka Whitfield about the latest developments.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Nude photos of the Republican were circulated this week on social media through an anonymous Twitter account.
[00:50:00] Barton has not denied that the photos are legitimate and he is apologized for it saying, this was from consensual relationship that he had
with adult women when he was separated with his wife before they got a divorce.
Here for some how his constituents in Texas are reacting.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not the person that we know now. Like I said, but then again, everybody has their own thing, you know, whatever he does his
business and, you know, if that was private. It should have been leaked or anything.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If he wants to send those pictures to a person he was sending to and she's OK with it, I mean, I have no saying to the matter.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SERFATY: In the meantime, Barton is now raising the possibility that he is the victim of revenge porn which is a criminal act in Texas. This is after
unnamed women have come forward telling the Washington Post that Barton, she says, sent her nude photos, videos and messages when they had two
sexual encounters over the course of five years.
Now, he claims when he ended that relationship with this woman. This woman threatened to publicly share those private photographs and retaliation.
That is his claim. But, Fred, we certainly have a lot more yet to learn about this --
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAUGHAN JONES: Sunlen Serfaty reporting there.
Now, after expelling ISIS from major cities, Iraq's security forces are now conducting a vast sweep of the desert to destroy the militants' last
hideouts. Troops backed by military helicopters are clearing the vast western desert that stresses always the Syrian border.
Iran which has, of course, played a key role in fighting ISIS has already declared victory over the militants. But Iraq's prime minister won't go
that far until this desert area is clear.
Well, Syria has also made great progress in fighting ISIS. And CNN visited the town of Jarabulus near the Turkish border where residence has been
given a new lease of life after the militants were driven out. Arwa Damon tells us why Turkey has now stepped in to help the town rebuilt.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
ARWA DAMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: At around about where ISIS used to display the head of its victims, there is a brand-new Turkish post office. It's
complete with an ATM. A man we meet takes us just around the corner to his cousin, Tom (ph). He was one of ISIS' first victims. But the family here
does not want to relive the unspeakable pain of the past.
They placed her brother's head just at the front of the door.
It was Syrian rebels backed by Turkish military might that drove ISIS out of the Jarabulus well over a year ago. And since then, Turkey has gone all
in, with reminders of that everywhere.
Turkey is funding a fully functioning hospital with Turkish expertise to bolster the Syrian staff. It's also supplying the town with electricity
and water and working out for the local police force, and as they call themselves the Free Syrian Army Rebel Units that are in the area.
Turkey has multiple reasons for wanting to both militarily and financially invest here. It wants to secure its own borders. It wants to stop the
Syrian Kurdish advance. And it is hoping that by creating safe zone that are relatively prosperous, Syrian refugees will perhaps begin returning to
their homeland. And Jarabulus' population has swelled to around 70,000. About three times its original inhabitants. And Turkey hopes to use
Jarabulus as example to prove to others that its patronage brings progress.
Along with everything else, Turkey is also funding schools, cramp of children from all over Syria eager to learn after having been deprived for
so long. This school used to be an ISIS Cubs of Caliphate training site and to prison. Five-year-old Wad (ph) may never understand why her parents
deserted her.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She says that her father left when the ISIS fighter left along with them, and abandoned her and the rest of the family.
DAMON: Serious scars run deep, and there is no certainty that its future will be any kinder to its people than in the past.
Arwa Damon, CNN, Jarabulus, Syria.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAUGHAN JONES: Turning now your attentions on the Korean Peninsula. US fighter pilots trained in the skies over South Korea in preparation for any
potential conflicts with the volatile North.
CNN's Alexandra Field went along for the ride.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In a few seconds were fully vertical.
[00:55:03] US Air Force Capital Kyle Miller call sign Diesel takes us straight up to 13,000 feet. I'm strapped in the back screaming to stay
conscious, feeling the gravity and the weight of it all.
That's the commander of the 8th Fighter Wing, Colonel David Shoemaker, and this happens everyday, a practice basal with North Korea.
COL. DAVID SHOEMAKER, COMMANDER, 8TH FIGHTER WING: And we practice just some of the basic maneuvers for air to air or some of the basic bombing
patterns or bombing maneuvers. We also practice the ability to survive and operate on the ground.
FIELD: Kunsan is the southern most US Air Base in South Korea. It's home to two US F-16 Fighter Jet Squadrons, flying time to North Korea, 12
minute. What will be the first few hours of conflict look like here at Kunsan?
SHOEMAKER: Time hasn't measured on the clock. It's measured in casualties. And faster that we can get on the job, the less casualties
that we'll see particularly in Seoul, in the opening volley of that war.
FIELD: In war time, Kunsan could expand to up to four times the number of servicemen and women currently serving here. And essential feat of US and
South Korean operations, and a prime target.
SHOEMAKER: We expect that North Korea is going to target, you know, any of our military bases that are here in the south.
FIELD: What kind of threat could North Korea present to the base here?
SHOEMAKER: So we worry about their short range ballistic missiles here and we know that they have chemical weapons at their disposal.
FIELD: They stay ready to fend off a ground invasion from North Korean Special Forces and to take the fight north from the air.
SHOEMAKER: Obviously, having that air to surface capability, being able to take out a long-range artillery that would be bombarding Seoul.
FIELD: This is the third tour at Kunsan for Colonel Shoemaker. It's undeniably different.
We know that North Korea has advanced in its nuclear capabilities and its missile capabilities. have you changed the way that you do things at all?
SHOEMAKER: It is a mindset shift of why it is so important and the seriousness with which all of the airmen and soldiers here Kunsan Air Base
take our exercises in our training.
FIELD: This is Diesels third flight into days. He puts us on the ground as the sun sets, the supersonic jet now quiet and the pilot, always ready.
Alexandra Field, CNN, Kunsan Air Base, South Korea.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAUGHAN JONES: Still to come tonight on the program. The leader of the Zimbabwe and opposition tell CNN what he expects will now happen in the
country. And the outrage builds after CNN reveals this shocking video of the slave market in Libya, we have more reaction from global leaders.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[15:30:25] HANNAH VAUGHAN JONES, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back to HALA GORANI TONIGHT.
Let's return to our top story this hour, the future of Zimbabwe now that Robert Mugabe is no longer president. His personal future appears to be
secure tonight after the military granted him and his wife Grace, immunity. It means they can stay in the country and not face any charges.
Well, the focus now turns to the man nicknamed "The Crocodile." For years, Emmerson Mnangagwa was Mugabe's right-hand man before he was sacked by
Mugabe as vice president.
After the military stepped in and forced to Mr. Mugabe to resign, Mnangagwa is now set to become the new leader. This is the first change of
leadership in Zimbabwe in nearly four decades.
Our Christiane Amanpour spoke to Morgan Tsvangirai, a longtime opposition leader and former prime minister and she asked him if Mugabe's resignation
happened according to his plan.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
MORGAN TSVANGIRAI, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF ZIMBABWE: Not according to plan, I'm afraid, but circumstances have dictated that getting Mugabe to
retire has always been the MDC mantra, that we knew that he was an albatross to the country.
But the methods that have now been used have coincided with the people's expectations and has, of course, the overwhelming support this action has
received.
AMANPOUR: So, Mr. Tsvangirai, everybody has been very careful not to call it a coup. What do you describe as what happened? What did the military
do that suddenly saw Mugabe step down, not elections, not anything else could get him to step down?
TSVANGIRAI: Well, one can say that you can't avoid to call it a military intervention because they did intervene. But the question is the method
that has been used was smart enough to avoid the characteristic coup mantra in Africa or elsewhere.
So, they've allowed Mugabe to go and officiate at that graduation ceremony. They've allowed him to return his position. So, at the end of day, they've
given some form of, veneer of respectability to the action.
AMANPOUR: OK. Well, what do you think then of Emmerson Mnangagwa. He's a former military. He's a former loyal Mugabe acolyte. Yes, he turned on
him and precipitated this. But do you believe that this man they call "The Crocodile" will, as he promised, bring proper democracy to the country,
restore the economy, bring jobs?
TSVANGIRAI: Let me say that, knowing Emmerson Mnangagwa, his character, you will have to work very hard to change his character, so that he can
define the future of the country and define his future as a Democrat, as a reformer. That, I doubt.
But at the same time, he knows that he cannot continue on the same path Mugabe has traveled and still expect the nation to respect him.
AMANPOUR: So, where do you think the constraints will be then? He's, obviously, going to be sworn in. And he, we understand, is going to lead
the nation into elections next year. Are you convinced and confident that these promised elections will happen on time and as regular,
internationally-accepted Democratic elections?
TSVANGIRAI: The MDC has already stated that constitutionally elections can be held no later than August. And I hope that Emmerson Mnangagwa
completing the term of Mugabe will stick to the constitutional path.
However, there are risks to extending the time and also shortening it without reforms. So, we are caught up in a catch 22 situation.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
JONES: Morgan Tsvangirai, the Zimbabwean opposition leader, speaking to our Christiane Amanpour earlier on.
Singular, short and violent, that's how spokesman for Argentina's navy described a sound heard the very day one of its submarines went missing.
[15:35:07] Crews from a dozen nations have now joined the search as the clock runs out. Experts are warning, if the submarine is intact, oxygen
will be running very low indeed. They're using vehicles designed to probe deep waters all in the hopes that the 44 sailors on board this vessel can
be saved.
I want to bring in someone now who knows firsthand what can go wrong on a submarine. Jeff Tall commanded one for Britain's Royal Navy and went on to
direct the Navy's museum. Jeff joins me now via Skype from Portsmouth, England.
Thank you, commander, so much for joining us on the program. We have to talk, first of all, about this explosion - possible explosion that was
heard a week ago. What does that tell you about the possible fate of this vessel, the submarine, and, of course, the 44 crew members on board?
JEFF TALL, FORMER SUBMARINE COMMANDER, BRITISH ROYAL NAVY: I think we are being certainly now pushed towards this theory that she suffered a
catastrophic explosion on board. And following up on reports earlier of a batter problem, that that was probably a battery explanation.
JONES: And much of the worry, at the moment, if indeed the crew members are still alive, is of the oxygen supply running out. What are the chances
that perhaps this vessel, if it is still intact, has somehow managed to surface and restock on oxygen supplies or indeed that this snorkeling
effect has happened and that they have managed to restock their oxygen supplies even if they are thousands of meters down?
TALL: Well, they are not thousands of meters down. And I honestly don't think that they were at periscope depths in order to stock and to recharge
the battery.
Yes, they're running low of breathable air, but they're also facing the problem carbon dioxide buildup. Carbon dioxide is insoluble in water. And
once that gets to a percentage of about 5 percent, then it will cause unconsciousness and at 7 percent it's lethal.
So, in a way --
JONES: My apologies. I was just going to ask about the procedures onboard, the training that crew members would go through on a submarine,
what will they be doing? If they are alive, what might they be doing to try to preserve as much oxygen as possible?
TALL: Well, they should be expanding residual energy as possible, breathing as little oxygen as possible, not talking. You're talking pretty
miserable conditions, if indeed they have survived. In a way, the kindest thing that could have happened perhaps was a battery explosion, which would
have meant a speedy death for everybody.
JONES: Are there rescue procedures, deep sea rescue procedures that are in place in the event of something like this happening and the crews
surviving, whatever the technical fault may have been on the submarine itself? Is there any way of being able to take individual crew members out
of a submarine at some depth and bring them back to the surface alive?
TALL: Yes. The Americans have deployed their deep-sea submersible rescue vessel. That's capable of going down and attaching itself to a ring on the
submarine hull. All submarines have got that. And then, to bring out survivors, either in a group or one by one, and that is ready to go.
JONES: We're hoping very much, of course, that they get to use that device and that that rescue operation can indeed take place, even though it has
been a week now since the vessel and the crew members onboard were in contact with anyone else.
TALL: They've got to find the hull first.
JONES: Right. Well, thank you so much for your analysis on this. Commander Jeff Tall, we appreciate it. Thank you.
Now, last week, we brought you the shocking story of human slave markets operating in Libya. Our Nima Elbagir went undercover to investigate how
migrants find themselves being sold like cattle. Here is a small reminder of Nima's report.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: (voice-over): A man addressing an unseen crowd.
[15:40:07] Big strong boys for farm work, he says. Four hundred. Seven hundred. Seven hundred? Eight hundred. The numbers roll in. These men
are sold for 1,200 Libyan pounds, $400 apiece.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JONES: Well, the footage sparked outrage around the world, including these protests, you can see, in the French capital, Paris.
And today, Jim Bittermann spoke exclusively to the head of the African Union.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
MOUSSA FAKI MAHAMAT, CHAIRMAN OF THE AFRICAN UNION (through translator): All the heads of state in Africa and Africa as a whole have denounced these
acts, which are completely unacceptable.
I have taken various measures. I have sent the commissioner of social affairs of Libya to talk to the Libyan government and express our
indignation and to see what measures should be taken.
I have also asked the African commissioner on human rights to begin an investigation on what concrete steps will be taken. I have up appealed to
the heads of state in Africa, so that together we are able to act urgently to bring back the migrants that are in this situation.
I also asked for a meeting between the African Union, the U.N. and E.U. on the margins of the African Union and E.U. Summit on Abidjan.
JIM BITTERMANN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The international community, do you believe, has some kind of responsibility for this
because, after all, it was countries like France and the United States who toppled Muammar Gaddafi and what led to the situation we are in now?
MAHAMAT (through translator): It's a shared responsibility. What happened in Libya, we were not consulted at the time. We were actually excluded
from managing this.
Those who carried it out didn't follow up. So, we're now seeing total chaos in an African country that today is shared between criminals and
terrorists, who destabilized the Libyan people and its neighbors. They are a threat for the whole continent and beyond.
BITTERMANN: So, you think France and United States and other should assume that responsibility, to take responsibility for the situation?
MAHAMAT (through translator): We are in a situation where human beings are threatened. Imagine you find yourself in a state where human beings are
sold in a souk to the highest bidder. This is abominable, and no conscience can accept it. We have to act, and we have to act now.
BITTERMANN: So, you just met with President Macron here in France. And what assurances did you get from him that France will be involved solving
the problem of slavery and perhaps some of the other problems of Africa?
MAHAMAT (through translator): I met with President Macron at his request to consult with him. France is a friend of the African continent. I
welcome his initiative.
I think we agree on what needs to be done in Libya. It's the responsibility of the international community. We must stabilize it. We
must urgently take concrete measures, so that people who are in prison right now, the people in slave markets will be saved.
BITTERMANN: Do you expect France will rise to the occasion? Do you -- after your meeting with President Macron, do you feel that he's going to
engage in Africa and help out to solve some of these problems?
MAHAMAT (through translator): The frank and honest nature of our conversation leads me to believe that it's a new approach. He's a man with
very clear ideas with concrete propositions, and I want to congratulate him for that.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
JONES: Still to come on the program tonight, from a dark past to much brighter beginnings. We'll bring you the devastating tale of a victim of
domestic servitude and why her future is now looking up. Stay with us for more.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[15:46:07] JONES: Welcome back. In today's CNN Freedom Project, story six years in the making. In 2011, we met Fedna, a shy young girl who was the
victim of a type of domestic servitude, but now she's receiving an education and looking forward to what the future holds. Our Michael Holmes
reports.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Fedna, delighted to meet you.
We first met Fedna in October 2011 while filming "Common Dreams", a CNN Freedom Project documentary that aimed to shed a light on the issue of
restavek in Haiti.
Local non-profits say as many as 400,000 children work as domestic servants in Haiti's restavek system, a traditional practice where children are sent
to live with a relative or a friend in the hopes that children will receive an education in exchange for doing household chores.
But too often, the children are exploited doing work beyond their years and left vulnerable to all manners of abuse.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's doing work that's beyond her physical strength, that's beyond her capabilities, work that the adults should be doing.
HOLMES: Fedna was just 8 years old, living as a domestic servant in her grandfather's house. Like most restavek children, she had never been to
school.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's never been to school.
HOLMES: Most restavek children, especially the girls, do not attend school. Through negotiations with an advocate from the non-profit Restavek
Freedom Foundation, Fedna's grandfather agreed to let them take her to school the next day.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He said he would be fine with us to come in and get her to take her to school tomorrow.
HOLMES: Six years later, the CNN Freedom Project went back to Haiti to find Fedna. Now, 14 years old, she still lives with her grandfather and
she is still in school.
FEDNA JEANTILIEN, FORMER RESTAVEK (through translator): The big difference in my life is that now I can read and write.
HOLMES: Fedna says being in school has been life-changing.
JEANTILIEN: -- what I've accomplished. And I have learned so much. All the things that I've learned, I apply them in my daily life and I share
them with other children as well.
HOLMES: Samuel Jean Baptiste is Fedna's child advocate. He says she has grown from a shy, tentative girl into a confident young woman.
SAMUEL JEAN BAPTISTE, CHILD ADVOCATE, RESTAVEK FREEDOM FOUNDATION: She has motivation. She is devoted to learn. She is working very hard. And I'm
really happy for her. And I hope and I'm sure that she will reach her goal one day and very, very, very soon because she has motivation for that.
HOLMES: Fedna's grandfather says he is grateful to Restavek Freedom for the opportunity to send Fedna to school and he is optimistic about her
future.
ASSEGNE JEANTILIEN, FEDNA'S GRANDFATHER (through translator): I really hope that she will become somebody.
JOAN CONN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, RESTAVEK FREEDOM FOUNDATION: I think now as we work with him and we talk to him about giving her time to play and
giving her time to study, things are getting better for this child and her life has improved. And she's a beautiful, beautiful child.
HOLMES: Fedna says, she still does chores at home. But she is grateful that she's been allowed to make her education the top priority in her life.
JEANTILIEN: It's important to me. Because I go to school, I believe I will become somebody in the future.
HOLMES: Michael Holmes, CNN.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
JONES: Fantastic stuff.
[15:49:55] Now, still to come tonight, giving thanks for the harvest in Rome. We get there at tour of the pope's personal farms and find out what
some of the favorite foods are of the pontiff.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
JONES: Welcome back. He may be at the helm of one of the world's most practiced religions, but the pope still has to eat. Curious as to where he
gets his food from? Well, our Delia Gallagher got rare access to a papal food paradise to sample some of its earthly offerings.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
DELIA GALLAGHER, CNN VATICAN CORRESPONDENT: Its harvest time at the pope's farm. Yes, the pope has a farm in the hills outside of Rome where a basket
of fresh produce is prepared for his kitchen every morning and sent down to the Vatican. It includes a few of Francis' favorite things.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): He likes cauliflower and broccoli.
GALLAGHER: Cheese, yogurt and milk made daily from 30 cows raised at Castel Gandolfo, formerly the summer residence for popes.
Alessandro Reale is the head farmer here. He shows us the garden where vegetable seeds from the White House gifted to the pope by President Obama
in 2014 are planted.
ALESSANDRO REALE, HEAD FARMER, POPE'S FARM: The seed are under the earth now. We hope in the springtime, with the help of God, to be able to pick
the cucumbers, carrots and zucchini from the Obamas.
GALLAGHER: The 62-acre property has 1,000 olive trees. More than half of them date back to the year 1200. And the farm produces a small number of
bottles of olive oil each year for the pope and officials who live in the Vatican.
Rigorously cold pressed using granite stone to make sure the oil being extracted does not warm up and ruin the flavor. A staple of the Italian
table, the head of the farm is proud of its high quality.
There are chickens too, who feed on the remnants of communion wafers made by cloistered nuns, who live on the property. With only seven workers, the
farm is a family affair says Alessandro Reale, a family with the whole (ph) father at its table.
Delia Gallagher, CNN, Rome.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
JONES: One of the most popular shows on Netflix is returning for a second season in just a few weeks' time. This time, "The Crown" will focus on the
British royal family in the 1960s. CNN's Robyn Curnow has more.
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ROBYN CURNOW, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It's a red carpet fit for a queen, the crowd, the cameras, the corgis.
The stars of the hit Netflix series "The Crown" turned out for the Season 2 world premiere in London. The show starring Claire Foy as the young Queen
Elizabeth II, takes us back to the early years of her marriage and reign and the struggles facing the monarchy. This season is set in the turbulent
1960s.
CLAIRE FOY AS QUEEN ELIZABETH II: I've been Queen barely 10 years. And in that time, I've had three prime ministers, not one has lasted the course.
CURNOW: And it's not just politics rucking Buckingham Palace, the story line covers the crisis in the Suez Canal, rumored infidelities by Prince
Philip, and a new love interest for the rebellious Princess Margaret.
[15:55:00] CLAIRE FOY, ACTRESS: Well, I think they're trying to change with the times as quickly as they possibly can, and unfortunately, you
know, what's happening in every single way is that, you know, the world is changing faster than anyone's able to kind of keep up.
CURNOW: With lush scenery and captivating characters, the viewer gets to witness the ups and downs of an extraordinary family.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The monarchy is too fragile. You keep telling me yourself. One more scandal, one more national embarrassment and it would
all be over.
CURNOW: All eyes had been on the Queen and Prince Philip in recent days as they celebrated their 70th wedding anniversary. Posing for portraits
marking the occasion, the Queen wore gold broach given to her by Prince Philip in the same time period the TV drama is set.
Now, all eyes will be on "The Crown." The new season will hit the small screen worldwide on December the 8th.
Robyn Curnow, CNN.
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JONES: And I, for one, cannot wait. Christmas can't come soon enough. But before we get to Christmas, it is, of course, Thanksgiving today in the
United States, with many people spending their morning watching the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade.
Huge crowd, as you would expect, lines the New York City streets to watch their favorite balloons parade past. CNN's Jason Carroll is out in
Manhattan earlier on today and he spoke to some very excited people in the crowd.
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JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: So, you're going to be seeing the parade. Let's get your -- let's get you in here as well.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my gosh.
CARROLL: So, you guys, you've been such a trooper. You've been out here with all these kids.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, my brother-in-law woke up at 4:30 to do this. I only showed up at about 5:45.
CARROLL: Well, you know, bless you. Bless you for being out here doing all this.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Exactly. It was all him.
CARROLL: What are you looking forward to seeing and doing?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm looking forward to sitting out --
CARROLL: Santa Claus. That's the wrong holiday. But that's coming up later.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's saving it. We're looking for Santa Claus, the end.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Power Rangers.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Power Rangers.
CARROLL: All right, Power Rangers. All right, you guys, thank you so very much. I want you to enjoy. Happy Thanksgiving to all of you.
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JONES: Oh, my. Well, happy Thanksgiving to any of you watching this evening, if you are indeed celebrating it. Thanks so much for watching the
whole program.
Stay with CNN, "QUEST MEANS BUSINESS" is coming up next.
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