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Saudi Airport Hit Again, Day After Houthi Attack Killed 13; Ukraine Accuses Russia Of Violating Trump? Energy Ceasefire; Federal Officers Search Home Of Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar; Trump To Rally In Ohio As Some Republicans Wary Of His Impact; Musk Donates At Least $276M To Boost Republican Candidates; Desperate Search In Gaza For Those Missing & Killed In War. Aired 3-4p ET

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MAX FOSTER, CNN HOST: The Houthis launched deadly attacks on Saudi Arabia.

This is WHAT WE KNOW.

Air travel all around Saudi Arabia disrupted because of Houthi attacks on Saudi airports. We're now about to show you one of those attacks, but be

warned the video is very graphic.

This is video from Saturday at the busy King Khalid airport in Riyadh. At least 13 people were killed. More than 300 injured in the blast, which

apparently came from a Houthi cruise missile. The airport will remain closed until at least October the 17th. The Iran-backed Houthis are

threatening more airport strikes in retaliation for Saudi attacks in Yemen.

Let's bring in CNN's Nic Robertson.

When we see these images, you just realize how serious this one was.

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: And how dangerous it could have been even more so than what was seen on Saturday when 13 people

were killed 308 other people injured and that is because the proximity those people have to this explosion if it had happened closer to them if it

had happened sort of directly above them the casualty toll could have been far, far higher and it appears as if Riyadh has escaped or dodged ballistic

missiles this evening. The military command, the Joint Task Force military command is saying that they intercepted ballistic missiles this Monday

evening as they were headed towards Riyadh.

The warning system went off, the missile warning system went off about 9:00 p.m. Riyadh time. The interceptions presumably coming pretty quickly

because an all clear was given on that same warning system for people to take shelter about 10 minutes later. But this does put the kingdom in a

very difficult position. Just this week it is hosting a global summit on energy. It is hosting a huge investment conference for Saudi Arabia in a

couple of weeks time. It is absolutely in the sort of international business spotlight. and the strikes on the airport, and the airport now

closed until the end of the week, that sends a hugely negative message to potential investors.

And that's a key thing for the Saudis. And I think that's why we heard from the energy minister today talking about whether it's the Houthi strikes or

the Iranian strikes, that the Saudis are not going to be bowed by all these attacks coming their way. This is how he framed it.

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PRINCE ABULAZIZ BIN SALMAN, SAUDI ENERGY MINISTER: We value our commitment. We make sure that whatever happens, our resilience, our plans,

our commitment to the world will be adhered to.

There is no way that somebody will break our back. We are like a phoenix. We come out of the ashes all the time and every time.

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ROBERTSON: So this really underscores their message of stability. But then there's that message of strength they want to portray. And built into that

is how to stop the Houthis perpetrating these attacks, how to send a strong enough military signal. And as we know, the Saudis are already backing with

airstrikes, the internationally recognized government in Yemen as they try to oust the Houthis from the country.

That could potentially be a very long conflict indeed, but Saudi Arabia is now in a position have taken strikes from the Houthis, and the Houthis say

that is because they're involved with backing the internationally recognized government in Yemen. So, all the tensions around this, none of

it's going away. So, the question becomes, how does Saudi show strength? How does it stop the Houthis from doing this?

It is building an international coalition of military support. It does have these airstrikes. And as we know, President Trump at the moment is mulling

whether or not He will provide more support above the intelligence level support that's being given at the moment by US personnel in Saudi and also

the sort of air-to-air refueling capacity that the U.K. also is providing.

FOSTER: OK, Nic Robertson, appreciate it. Thank you.

To Ukraine now, accusing Russia of violating the surprise energy ceasefire announced by U.S. President Donald Trump on Sunday. President Trump said

the two sides had agreed to immediately pause attacks on energy infrastructure. Ukrainian President Zelenskyy says he had only heard about

the deal though through the media and that Russia shortly after the U.S. president's announcement launched a strike on a power plant.

Here's more from the Ukrainian president.

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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT: Immediately after the post, Russia launched a targeted strike on a power plant in Kharkiv, causing

further damage to our energy system.

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It was clear that Putin does not read Truth also.

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FOSTER: Matthew Chance now has more on the Kremlin's response to this ceasefire.

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MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN CHIEF GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: It's being actually very tight-lipped and you get the impression that the Kremlin was

also sort of taken by surprise by this announcement by President Trump that an energy ceasefire had been agreed by both sides. There's been a

conference call, a daily conference call by the Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov over the course of the past several hours. He was obviously

repeatedly asked about this and he just said that contacts are ongoing and that he had nothing further to add. So that's not exactly a ringing

endorsement, is it, of that energy ceasefire announced so prominently by President Trump at the weekend.

There have been ceasefires like this, energy ceasefires undertaken in the past. There were a couple last year that didn't amount to much. There was

one earlier this year that lasted for just a few days. What's different this time, though, it seems, is that President Trump has so much more at

stake. He's facing the midterms in, what is it, three weeks, high prices at the pumps in the United States. Really wants to show he's doing everything

he can to U.S. voters to try and bring that down.

And that's why there's all this enormous pressure being placed right now on Ukraine, on the leadership in Kyiv, to stop their attacks on Russian oil

refineries to try and allow Russian diesel and other fuel products to continue to flow and to pick up. If they don't, it also potentially

provides President Trump with a scapegoat in the form of President Zelenskyy in Ukraine. He can blame them for the fact it didn't happen.

All of this, of course, music to the ears of the Kremlin absolutely rubbing their hands with glee that they are once again on the same page when it

comes to Ukraine with the White House.

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FOSTER: Matthew Chance.

Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar says she will not be silenced. Agents removed boxes from her home in the Washington area just hours ago. The

Department of Justice saying Homeland Security executed a search warrant as part of an ongoing criminal investigation. It comes just weeks before the

midterms, where Representative Omar is up for reelection.

Representative writing on X, ?ake no mistake, this is an attempt to target political enemies and weaponize federal law enforcement. For 10 years,

Trump has targeted me with baseless lies and smear campaigns. This is just the latest escalation in his campaign of political intimidation.

Katelyn Polantz reports.

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KATELYN POLANTZ, CNN CRIME AND JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: A clear step in an immigration criminal investigation. Here's what we know exactly so far. Not

a lot of details on what is being investigated here related to Representative Ilhan Omar, but the Justice Department has said in a

statement today that the in the Washington D.C. area, Homeland Security investigations executed a judicially authorized search warrant, so approved

by a federal judge. And that it was secured by the Department of Justice, so that would be prosecutors going to that judge for approval for this

search today.

The Justice Department also says that this enforcement action is part of an ongoing federal criminal investigation. The White House Border Czar Tom

Homan this morning deflected questions about what this search was saying that he would leave additional commentary to the attorney general or to the

secretary of the Homeland Security Department.

But in the past, Tom Homan have has commented about Representative Omar saying that there is some level of immigration enforcement that is being

investigated with her. Now, she is a Somali immigrant to the United States, having fled that country as a child, she's a U.S. citizen and she's been a

member of Congress since 2018. So for some time now, there have -- she has been a target of President Donald Trump for some time he said that she is a

disgrace and he has heavily criticized her and other members of what's known as the squad.

Also of much note right now is that we are in the period of the midterm elections. Representative Omar is running for reelection in Minnesota as a

sitting member of Congress typically the Justice Department pumps the brakes on any sort of overt investigative activity or criminal charges in

the 60-day period before an election. At this point in time, a source tells me that top Justice Department leadership did deliberate over whether this

search could take place right now, and that it was signed off on by the top leadership of the Justice Department.

Back to you.

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FOSTER: Katelyn Polantz there.

Now, U.S. President Donald Trump traveling to Ohio today in hopes of shoring up support for Republican candidates, as some claim he's dragging

his own party down ahead of the midterm elections.

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It is the president's second trip to Ohio this month as Republicans work to avert losses in a string of once safe seats. that they fear could cost them

control of Congress. Some Republicans are questioning the president's effectiveness on the campaign chair. President Trump is standing by the

power of his rallies, calling them legendary on social media today.

Alayna Treene is following developments from the White House.

Alayna, what's the vibe you're getting on all this?

ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I think one of the key things about Ohio, particularly why you're seeing the president go there,

like you mentioned, Max, this will be the second time in just a month, is because of the enthusiasm gap. We're starting to see that with some early

voting as well, that more Democrats -- more registered Democrats are early voting than Republicans. We should note, of course. Republicans tend to

vote more on Election Day in recent years, but there are concerns that perhaps turn out could favor the Democrats.

And so, you're seeing a lot of resources put in by Republicans to try and ensure that they show up on November 3rd. And that has really been crucial

to the president's entire strategy. I mean, he's been going to several different red states, really focusing hard on states, many of which he won

by double digits in 2024. Ohio is one of those. He won in Ohio by 11 points in 2024 is try and get his base supporters, his fiercest supporters, to

show up at the midterm elections, which isn't always an easy feat when you think about Republicans and voters in general who may not tend to want to

show up in an off-year election. That's why he's saying, pretend my name is on the ballot.

But if you want to just take a look at how the president you know, how him being there could potentially be dragging down Republicans across the

ballot. I would just look at his poll numbers in Ohio. I mean, CNN had a poll there last week that showed he's completely underwater. I mean, it

showed him underwater by 28 points. His approval rating now only at 36 percent, Max, in Ohio.

And you're seeing similar trends when it comes to the candidates that he's stomping for. You look at the Senate race there, Jon Husted, he is the

incumbent in the race. He is only polling at 43 percent compared to the Democrat, a former Senator Sherrod Brown, who's polling at 49 percent.

The numbers are even worse for Republicans when you look at the governor's race in Ohio, the Republican in that Vivek Ramaswamy at 42 percent, the

Democrat polling at 50 percent. That's Amy Acton.

So, there's a lot of work that still needs to be done. But again, it all comes back to trying to energize these voters. to show up. And I will say

from the conversations I've been having, it's less a focus on trying to convince more persuadable voters, more independent-leaning conservatives.

It's really about getting the core Republicans to turn out on Election Day.

And similar study, like I mentioned in these other places. We know the president just this week is going to Alaska tomorrow. He'll be in two

different states, Arizona and Montana on Wednesday. A lot of these places at six months ago, Max, I think Republicans would be arguing we don't need

to waste time, energy, money in these places, they would be considered safe districts.

But now, you're seeing the president and many of these different Republicans really needing to play defense to ensure they can shore up as

much support from their party as possible as we close in on November 3rd.

FOSTER: Yeah, it could be telling. Thank you, Alayna.

Republicans may not have the polls on their side, but they do have a huge cash advantage heading into the final stretch of the midterm campaigns.

Some of that is due to the world's richest man, Elon Musk. In fact, no one has been a bigger known GOP donor this campaign season. He has poured at

least $276 million into the midterms, most of that money going to help Republican candidates for Senate.

Joining me now, CNN politics senior reporter Stephen Collinson.

That does suggest he's concerned about the Senate, doesn't it, Stephen?

STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS SENIOR REPORTER: Yeah, and that massive haul of money is exactly what the Republicans need to try and mitigate all

of those problems that Elena was just laying out. A lot of the money is going into the Senate race in Texas, a state where Musk has extensive

business interests. And I think the question we need to ask as he uses this money to help Republicans build that turnout operation, to get those low

propensity Republicans out to voters, what is he hoping for?

I mean, the money is not being spent for no reason at all. Presumably he's looking for a return on his investment. Clearly, Musk does not want the

possibility of a Democratic Congress using its powers of investigation to probe what went on with DOGE, his effort to defenestrate the U.S.

government at the start of the administration. He has multiple contracts that are funded by the U.S. government and Congress has the power of the

purse in the United States, so that's another issue that's core to his business.

So, clearly, he has an ideological weighting towards the Republicans.

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But I think there are very practical political issues why he is spending this money, even though he's perhaps less prominent in this campaign than

he was in the run-up to President Trump's reelection in 2024.

FOSTER: I gather the Democrats are less concerned about turnout because their base seems quite energized. How true is that? And what's than their

focus now, looking at this pile of money landing on the opposition?

COLLINSON: Yeah, Democrats cannot wait to vote. Lots of them are turning up in early voting that's beginning to open across the states. There is

clearly a great deal of antipathy towards President Trump, anger, fury. The Democrats are now coming out of their shell of mourning, really, that

they've been in the last two years since they lost the White House to Trump and he was able to come back in and set about his extremely expansive and

some would say radical agenda.

So, there's no problem with Democrats wanting to get out and punish the president. I think the big problem is for Republicans that they're not

getting to that same kind of enthusiasm. We saw in the midterms in Trump's first term that there are some Republican voters who simply will only come

out when he is on the ballot. That is the reason the president's been saying to voters, look, pretend I am up for election this year.

The problem with that is exactly that is the Democratic message. And as you point out, Democrats are stressing this message of affordability. They're

hammering Trump over high prices for gasoline, which have been exacerbated by the war in Iran, and saying that he's not answered the question he

promised to answer in 2024. which was how do you get prices down. So, I think all of that is factoring into the reason why Democrats are much more

enthusiastic to vote this time around.

FOSTER: What impact do you think this raid on Ilhan Omar's house is? I mean, we need to find out more about what's at the bottom of it. But I

guess there's been a lot of tension between President Trump and Omar, and that's going to be the narrative people look at.

COLLINSON: Yeah, I think it will feed into the view from critics of Trump that he's using the government in order to go after his political enemies.

There is a quite close Senate rate in Minnesota, the state that Ilhan Omar represents in the House of Representatives.

It's possible there could be some blowback there. Could it get more Republicans out to vote and show support for the Democrats for the

president, possibly, but you would think it's just as likely to shore up support for the Democrats in what has tended to be a Democratic state.

But I do think this fits into the pattern of the president using the Justice Department to target his enemies, people, for example, in addition

to Ilhan Homar, like the former FBI chief James Comey, who's been a rival and opponent of the president since back in his first term.

So, I think it will probably solidify the narratives on both sides and not necessarily sway the election.

FOSTER: Stephen Collison, appreciate it. Thank you.

Coming up, losing their loved ones to war was devastating enough, but thousands of families in Gaza still can't have closure because so many

bodies remain buried under the rubble a year after the ceasefire, the search for the missing ahead.

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FOSTER: Imagine living through a conflict the world has largely forgotten, remains of the dead still scattered in the streets, concealed under crushed

buildings and rubble. That is the situation in Gaza. It's been a year since the ceasefire was declared between Israel and Hamas, yet Israel still

carries out airstrikes and thousands of people are still missing.

Our Jomana Karadsheh has more. Warning you, her report is disturbing.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (translated): She was wearing it. She was wearing it.

JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Through the stench of decomposing remains, Umtalib (ph) is identifying the dead by the clothes

they wore that day three years ago.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (translated): Your mother! Your mother! I? telling you, it is your mother.

The prayer clothes, it? your aunt.

KARADSHEH (voice-over): This is what it's come to in Gaza. Those who survived trying to identify those who did not. Three years in, the smallest

detail carries the most weight, a scrap of clothing enough to bring a family its answers, and the deceased, their dignity.

The search is painstaking. Today, sped up by Gaza City's only excavator, finally here to remove the rubble from the 2023 Israeli bombing that killed

dozens of Umtalib's families. Israel banned the entry of heavy machinery into Gaza until it says Hamas is disarmed, but that means leaving the whole

devastated strip with only two excavators, according to local officials.

It's been a year since the ceasefire agreement, and so many are still searching for what's left of their loved ones.

The Palestinian Civil Defense says more than 8.000 are missing, believed to be buried beneath the sea of rubble Gaza has become. But even trying to

locate their remains seems impossible.

Over 60 percent of Gaza is under Israeli control and off limits for Palestinians.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (translated): I try to find him, but I don? know where.

KARADSHEH (voice-over): For three long years, Suha (ph) has been searching among the dead, looking for her boy. She says her son Jihad (ph) was shot

and killed in front of her in November 2023 during the Israeli military's forced evacuation of Gaza City.

She had to leave his body behind at the hospital and flee. She's been searching for him ever since.

SUHA AL-SHARIF, SEARCHING FOR MISSING SON (translated): Why am I still alive? Why am I alive? My home is gone, my son is gone. What should I live

for?

KARADSHEH (voice-over): Our cameraman met Suha last year as she and other families gathered to dig out the makeshift graveyard at Shifa Hospital.

AL-SHARIF (translated): I was calling out for him in the cemeteries. ? am here my son, I brought you your daughters.? Dear God, give ma sign that he

is here. I want to see him, even if for a minute to hold him.

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KARADSHEH (voice-over): She spotted this blanket. She's certain it's the one he was carrying that day.

A year on, we found her still looking for her son.

AL-SHARIF (translated): I need to find him. To know his place, his body, his grave. So as a mother I can be at peace. I want to be at peace. I want

to find my son to be at peace.

KARADSHEH (voice-over): But in this place, it seems there's no peace, not for the living, not even for the dead.

Jomana Karadsheh, CNN.

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FOSTER: Israeli authorities say one teenager has been killed and more than a dozen injured in a deadly explosion near the Israeli-Lebanon border. It

happened whilst Israeli students and staff were on a school trip today.

Jeremy Diamond is in Tel Aviv tonight with details.

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JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: One teenager was killed and several others wounded after an explosion rocked a school trip in northern

Israel. According to paramedics, there were at least three people who sustained serious injuries as a result of this explosion, and at least 10

others suffered light to moderate injuries in addition to that one student who was killed. This was apparently as these students were hiking on a

class trip in northern Israel near the Lebanese border.

This is an area that, of course, was a hotspot during the most active phases of conflict between Israel and the Lebanese militant group

Hezbollah. And the Israeli military which sent soldiers to the scene shortly after this explosion took place said that the soldiers indicated

that the explosion was likely caused by unexploded Hezbollah munitions, very likely cluster submunitions these small bomblets that would have been

dispersed by Hezbollah rockets fired over the course of the conflict.

Now, it's not clear how long that munition had been in that location before it exploded amid this school trip. But this is one of those dangers of

these cluster munitions, is that many times, you see these munitions don't explode, and sometimes they explode later on when they are picked up or

when somebody walks by them. And in this case, it happens during this class trip in northern Israel.

Jeremy Diamond, CNN, Tel Aviv.

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FOSTER: Coming up, President Trump is weighing whether to join Saudi Arabia's fight against the Iran-backed Houthis after a deadly attack at

Riyadh Airport. What does this mean for the kingdom and the region?

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FOSTER: Let's go back to our top story. U.S. President Donald Trump says he's considering helping Saudi Arabia retaliate against the Iranian-backed

Houthis for a series of attacks on Saudi airports. Air travel across the Saudi kingdom has been disrupted by the Houthi attacks. Riyadh's main

airport is completely shut down.

A suspected cruise missile that hit that Riyadh airport on Saturday left at least 13 people dead and more than 300 injured. The Houthis are warning

airlines to avoid Saudi airspace altogether. The Saudis say they will not back down.

What we don't know is how will Saudi Arabia respond to Houthi attacks.

Joining us now, Fawaz Gerges, a professor of international relations at the London School of Economics.

Thank you for joining us, Professor, as ever.

But this is a problem, isn't it, for the Saudis? Because it's showing how exposed they are to these attacks, its economy, its tourism industry, its

vulnerability, actually.

FAWAZ GERGES, PROFESSOR OF INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS AT THE LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS: It's very alarming. And for the Saudis, for the Saudi public,

it's a great shock. The pressure on the Iranian leadership must be considerable. I mean, Saudi Arabia and Gulf countries basically pride

themselves on being safe, secure, on international investment, on being an oasis of stability in a sea of turmoil in the Middle East. And what the

U.S.-Israel war in Iran has shown that the Gulf now is one of the most unstable regions in the world.

Not only the war, we're not really talking about Iran, Max, you and I. The war itself has escalated into Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Lebanon. And this

is part of the law of unintended consequences. And I think the choices facing Saudi Arabia are extremely, extremely difficult. Because, as you

know, Saudi Arabia in 2015 led an Islamic coalition whose goal was to dislodge Ansar Allah al-Houthis from Sana'a and defeat them.

And the war lasted from 2015 to 2022. It was one of the costliest wars in modern history. More than 380,000 Yemenis died as a result of this war,

either by killing or even starvation. Tens of thousands of children and, of course, 4.5 million displaced people. Eighty percent of Yemenis now need

humanitarian aid.

This is the poorest country in the world. And the question is for the Saudis, what's the end game of strategic escalation against the Houthis?

Because the Houthis have not much to lose, and they're -- you know, they have the willpower to fight for the last man.

I mean, I think the current war itself were unlikely to bring about any closure to the conflict in Yemen, in particular between the Houthis and

Saudi Arabia.

FOSTER: Unless, I guess, if America does get properly involved and gives all of its military support to Saudi Arabia. But that's difficult to

imagine right now, isn't it, with all the pressure the U.S. military is under right now? you know, the unpopularity of the Iran war already amongst

Americans.

GERGES: Well, I mean, I think the Saudis and the Emiratis and the Kuwaitis and the Bahrainis are paying for President Trump's reckless adventure and

miscalculation in Iran. They are paying directly the cost, probably $200 billion. Not to mention, it's really basically appended the entire security

architecture in the region.

And even, Max, even if the United States comes in directly, again, what's the end game?

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The United States and Israel tried their hands trying to defeat the Houthis. Remember what the United States did in 2025? More than 1,000

targets, the United States attacked the Houthis for several months. And finally, they could naturally force the Houthis to stand down. And

President Trump declared a unilateral ceasefire.

So even if the United States come in directly, what's the end game? And finally, in asymmetrical warfare, this is an asymmetrical war, all the

Houthis have to do is to fire several drones and ballistic missiles and continue to make turmoil and rattle the world economy. And that's why the

only way out is a diplomatic solution, is a political solution.

And if and when the dust settles on the second phase of this particular war, it could really last for another decade. The only way out will be a

diplomatic solution. And I think the challenge facing leadership now is that really to basically overcome this particular construction of lose-lose

into win-win. But again, you need political will, you need vision, and you need mediators.

And the Omanis and the Qataris are ready to play a major role to mediate the conflict between the Houthis and the Saudis if political will exists in

both capitals.

FOSTER: And the Houthis are in relatively strong position compared to how they have been in the past, right? So, what will they want from Saudi

Arabia, do you think, as the first point of this negotiation, if it ever does happen?

Well, I mean, I think the Houthis have been under tremendous pressure economically and socially. Remember, the Houthis are -- live under a

blockade since 2015. I mean, the entire population is basically on the verge of starvation in Yemen. So, the Houthis want the blockade to be

lifted by Saudi Arabia and the internationally recognized government. And they want recognition. They want to basically recognize as a government as

opposed to a non-state actor.

The reality, the difficulty facing Saudi Arabia now is that Saudi Arabia is under tremendous pressure to basically punish the Houthis for the reckless

attacks against the Saudis and killing Saudis. And I think Saudi Arabia has the capabilities to punish the Houthis. But again, so what if you punish

the Houthis? The Houthis don't have really much to lose.

So, at the end of the day, the question facing the leadership of Saudi Arabia, what kind of a diplomatic solution the Saudi leadership is willing

to accept? At this particular moment, The Houthis are basically demanding a victor's peace, I mean, because they have won the entire Red Sea post my

take on it. The Saudi strategy is to try to weaken the Houthis before entering into any kind of a negotiations, talks with the Houthis.

But again, it's easy to plan such a kind of military campaign. All we see now is escalation. And the damages and the costs are tremendous and will

most likely be catastrophic, not just for Yemen, but even for the deep inside Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states as well.

FOSTER: It's desperate, isn't it? Fawad Gerges, thank you for bringing us some clarity on that relationship between those two groups.

Now, in the final moments of trade on Wall Street, investors react to high oil prices. The Dow is just slightly higher and energy stocks had some of

the biggest gains.

This is our Business Breakout.

This year's Nobel Prize in economics goes to two Americans reshaping how central banks fight downturns. The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences said

the work of Robert E. Hall and Michael Woodford was helping in minimizing the impact of external economic shocks.

Elon Musk vows economic -- sorry, Elon Musk vows competitive pricing for Starlink in India as local rival Reliance Jio gets ready for a record IPO

with a valuation of 106 billion. Jio is owned by multi-billionaire Mukesh Ambani. Both groups are waiting for regulatory clearance.

Finance leaders are gathering in Bangkok this week for the IMF and World Bank meetings. Discussions will be dominated by economic fallout from the

war in Iran. Worries over energy supplies and prices, and there was sluggish global economic growth.

A new report says A.I. could force some 11 million workers into new careers by 2035 and that it could create more jobs than it kills. This comes after

a CNN poll found three quarters of Americans have fears and concerns about A.I.'s growth and development.

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CNN Business senior reporter David Goldman is here to give us all of the details because a lot of people are panicking there wouldn't be any jobs.

So what will they be doing?

DAVID GOLDMAN, CNN BUSINESS SENIOR REPORTER: Yeah, well, it's a complicated story because this study that you just referenced says that we

are going to lose 35 million jobs by 2035 to automation. That sounds scary, but then when you see that 40 million jobs will be created over the same

point -- well, okay, that maybe not so bad. Well, you need to dive into the numbers to find out what's really going on, but 25 million folks will not

need to leave their job over the course of the next decade that, you know, A.I. just will allow them to continue to do what they're doing.

That is good news, but not such good news for about 11 million people who will need to leave their jobs. That's about 6.5 percent of the current

labor force. That's a serious amount of folks.

Now, six million people are leaving the labor force already just because they're aging out. We expect that to happen by about 2032. which could

create some room for the folks who are losing their jobs to A.I. In fact, we can already see this trend happening, 55 and older. The share of the

labor force that they make up was 39 percent just four years ago and is now under 37 percent.

So, this trend is happening and we're not replacing them with immigration in this country and certainly not younger people. The population is getting

older that could create an opportunity for some folks. But what opportunity is the big question? Because the jobs that we're looking for right now are

electricians, plumbers, construction workers, folks to build the A.I. data centers.

If this isn't something that you want to do, well, then you might be out of luck. There are postings, though, for more senior level positions of the

8,000 job postings that are on LinkedIn for A.I. It's about 5 percent of all S&P 500 companies postings. But 71 percent of them are for senior level

jobs.

However, these are complicated. Data analysts, A.I. engineers, these aren't jobs that you can just walk into. You need to have some skill set for this.

So, it's a mixed picture, Max.

FOSTER: That's very interesting, David. Thank you so much for that.

Coming up, a string of deaths along a river trail in Michigan, sparking fears that a serial killer is involved. We'll share what police are saying

as they race to solve this case.

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FOSTER: Actress Selma Blair has been taken to a hospital after a strange incident on board a plane on Sunday. Police responded to reports of a

physically abusive passenger. A representative for Blair said she suffered a medical emergency and is now in stable condition. Blair is known for her

roles in ?ruel Intentions,? ?egally Blonde? and ?ellboy?. She has multiple sclerosis.

Leigh Waldman following this from Los Angeles.

We've got some details, but there's all sorts of rumors about what happened out there.

LEIGH WALDMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Max, at this point we know that police responded to JFK Airport on Sunday after dispatch reports of unruly

passenger who Port Authority has then identified as the actress Selma Blair. They said that Blair, according to dispatch audio, was hitting her

head on the bulkhead and there was an incident in interactions with flight attendants that left one flight attendant hospitalized, another injured.

I believe we also have audio from that dispatch call through air traffic control, let's take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One flight attendant and one passenger that sustained some minor injuries, a bloody nose as well as some bite marks as well. So,

I don't think we need an ambulance or anything like that, but we just want to get some medical personnel at the gate to look at their injuries.

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WALDMAN: At this point, we know that the FBI is investigating this incident, as they do with other incidents that happen in the air and the

skies. Delta has also released a statement that they do not tolerate unruly behavior from their passengers that puts their staff and other customers at

risk here.

We've heard from Selma Blair's representatives. In a statement, they tell us that she was hospitalized and is recovering now in stable condition.

that led up to this alleged incident saying it was an emergency medical incident. And upon landing, she received that medical attention and is

currently in stable conditions.

But you mentioned those questions that we still have lingering. We don't know exactly what led up to this altercation that happened as that plane

was making its way to John F. Kennedy Airport in New York. We know that the actress herself, she is living with multiple sclerosis.

She had posted on her Instagram page shortly before this incident happened, talking about her recent travels from New York City to Los Angeles. Lots of

questions still remaining that we're hoping to get answers to.

FOSTER: Yeah, I mean, it's a fascinating case, isn't it? We'll get more details.

Thank you so much.

Now in the U.S. Midwest, Michigan police are investigating a possible serial killer after several deaths connected to a popular river trail. At

least five men have died since last October after injuries on or near the Lansing River Trail.

Police believe at least some were murdered and they're worried this could be a pattern as CNN's Randi Kaye reports.

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RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The victims all have one thing in common, Max. They were all unhoused, so they didn't have anywhere else to live, and

they were spending the night overnight on this trail. Investigators believe that they are seeing a pattern of somebody targeting white, unhoused men.

They are not ruling out the possibility that this could be -- could be a serial killer. They are looking at that possibility. They were all found

along this river trail. It's about a 20-mile stretch of paved trail, and it connects a lot of the city's parks together.

One victim, just to give you an idea of the injuries that were caused, one victim was found unconscious with head trauma and a collapsed skull. Others

had broken bones, broken ribs, facial lacerations. And the authorities are saying that three out of five of these cases were homicides.

The police chief says that he believes the attacks occurred overnight when the victims were either lying down or possibly even asleep. Here's a little

bit more of what he had to say about the idea that this could be a serial killer.

CHIEF ROB BACKUS, LANSING POLICE DEPARTMENT: Outside of these five events, we have no other assaultive-related deaths on the river trail.

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One question that we are being asked is do we have a serial killer in Lansing? What we need the public to know is that we are investigating all

of these cases. They are all active investigations. And we are looking at the idea or the possibility that these may be related cases.

KAYE: Now the mayor is telling the general public that the area is safe, that they can go there and walk their dogs or do whatever that these men

were specifically targeted. The deaths, though I should note, date back to October of last year, so a year ago, and the men range in age from 22 years

old, which was the fourth victim to 70 years old, most of them though were in their 50s.

And it's also worth noting that there weren't any witnesses or cameras in the area that captured anything that might be useful to police. So now they

are stepping up their patrols in that area. They're adding more cameras as well.

They do have one suspect in custody that they believe could be connected to the fourth. killing in this case, but they're not sure if he's connected to

any of the others. They're looking into that possibility, but that investigation is still underway. But again, one man in custody being

evaluated for possibly being connected to just one of these, Max.

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FOSTER: Our Randi Kaye there.

Now, a big announcement out of the Vatican. Pope Leo will undergo surgery on Tuesday. We'll tell you why.

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FOSTER: Pope Leo heading to hospital on Tuesday for surgery. The Vatican says he'll have a small growth on his lung removed.

Here's Vatican correspondent Christopher Lamb with more.

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CHRISTOPHER LAMB, CNN VATICAN CORRESPONDENT: A lot of anxiety here in the Vatican as Pope Leo prepares to undergo surgery to remove a growth on his

lung. The Pope is expected to be admitted into hospital at Gemelli in Rome late Tuesday morning and the surgery to happen sometime after that. The

Pope making the announcement that he needs this operation for the crowd in St. Peter's Square.

The news coming as a surprise to many particularly in the Vatican where Pope Leo is seen as someone generally in good health. He stays active. He

swims. He plays tennis.

So, this news something of a shock for people. Now Leo is preparing for a major trip to Latin America in early November. It's a trip he's very

excited about because it means he goes back to Peru, a country he served as a missionary and a bishop in for many years.

But there is a question mark about his future engagements given this surgery that is due to take place on Tuesday.

Christopher Lamb, CNN, Rome.

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FOSTER: Finally tonight, you probably never thought of refrigerators as potential targets for a cyberattack, but that's just what happened in

France last night. Hackers forced fridges at many well-known supermarket chains, including Carrefour, to heat up to 50 degrees Celsius. This

triggered fires, massive food losses across hundreds of locations.

France's National Cyber Security Agency has launched an investigation into the attack.

I'm Max Foster. That's WHAT WE KNOW. Do stay with CNN.

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