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U.S., Iraqi Forces Modify Baghdad Security Plan; Culling Operation Aimed at Containing Outbreak of Bird Flu; Baghdad Magnet for People Moving Away From Dangers Elsewhere

Aired February 05, 2007 - 12:00   ET

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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: The toll of the Iraq war goes far beyond the dead and injured. For hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, there is no place to call home.
JIM CLANCY, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: The nervous wait in Britain to see if an outbreak of bird flu virus has spread beyond an English farm.

CHURCH: When it comes to diplomacy-building, money talks. Just ask some recipients of China's newfound wealth.

CLANCY: And after years of "The Donald" -- and we don't mean Trump -- Pentagon news conferences get a makeover courtesy of the new boss.

Right now, it's 8:00 p.m. in Baghdad, noon in Washington, D.C.

Hello and welcome, everyone, to our report broadcast around the globe.

I'm Jim Clancy.

CHURCH: And I'm Rosemary Church.

From Baghdad, to Being, to Washington, wherever you're watching, this is YOUR WORLD TODAY.

CLANCY: We begin our report from Iraq, where the violence rages on as U.S. and Iraqi forces gear up for a new and improved security plan.

CHURCH: That's right. At least 27 people have been killed in attacks across Baghdad.

CLANCY: And roadside bombs, mortar rounds, car bombs, all exploding at a local council building, residential and commercial areas, including near a children's hospital.

CHURCH: Well, the relentless violence is a sign of the difficulty facing U.S. and Iraqi forces as they try to secure the capital. The plan is a revised version of operations that have failed in the past.

Michael Ware joins us live from Baghdad with more. Michael, as this violence appears to be spinning out of control, how is this newly revised offensive, if you like, likely to reclaim the capital?

MICHAEL WARE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we're yet to see if it is likely to reclaim the capital, Rosemary, but as you point out, this is essentially a mutation or evolution of past American-lead plans to reclaim the capital, Baghdad, from the death squads, militias, and insurgents who have it and its people in their group.

What the American military and Iraqi security force partners are focusing on this time, as opposed to the past, is not just clearing controversial or contested areas, but holding them. In the past, the American plan was to hold these areas while passing them off to Iraqi counterparts. Well, that failed, largely because of the complicity of those counterparts in the death squads and the sectarian strife.

Now we're seeing additional U.S. forces used to hold those areas themselves and to force the Iraqis to operate together in newly coordinated command and control centers -- Rosemary.

CHURCH: Michael, an interesting distinction you make there. So U.S. forces clearing and holding these areas, that's what sets this offensive apart from those in the past. But what -- what about Iraqis, what are they saying? What are their expectations of this?

WARE: Well, so far, Iraqi expectations are low. And to be honest, no one can blame this beleaguered population in the capital for expecting nothing but the worst. They have seen only an increase in violence and a decrease in the quality and safety of their lives for the past year or two.

So, expectations, honestly, are low. The truth they're waiting to see will be on the streets. And even American commanders warn not to expect any results overnight. This city is going to have to be cordoned (ph) back block by block -- Rosemary.

CHURCH: All right. Michael Ware reporting there from Baghdad.

Thanks for that.

And in other developments in the war in Iraq, running wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is costly for the Pentagon. U.S. President George W. Bush is requested a projected $100 billion of new spending for the U.S. military. Republican leadership in the U.S. Senate has vowed to block a vote Monday on a non-binding resolution opposing the troop increase.

And courts-martial proceedings begin for 1st Lieutenant Aaron Watada (ph) for his refusal to deploy to Iraq. Watada (ph) calls the war morally wrong and a breach of U.S. law. He faces four years in prison.

CLANCY: Authorities in Britain are finishing up a massive culling operation after the deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu was discovered at the country's largest turkey farm. Paula Hancocks joins us now from Suffolk with more on the outbreak that has Britain on edge.

Paula, what can you tell us?

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Jim, I must admit, not many people were surprised this major outbreak had happened in Britain. Officials had always said it was more a case of when, rather than if. And as we know, the cleanup is continuing behind me at this particular farm where the infection was found. We've also been warned that this is very unlikely to be the last outbreak in Europe.

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HANCOCKS (voice over): No chances are being taken at the site of Britain's first major flu outbreak. Decontamination is the best weapon these workers have against the spread of the disease. As the last of the 160,000 slaughtered birds are taken from the infected farm in south England, local farmers can do little but wait to see if it has spread.

Dominique Parker's (ph) farm is just four kilometers from the epicenter of the infection. This is as far as he will allow us onto his property, just two yards inside the entrance. With 180,000 chickens in coops filmed here from the main road, the only people allowed on his farm since Friday are his two workers. He says his chickens are always inside away from the wild birds.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The poultry houses are sealed from outside birds going in and out. The men that are working in the sheds dip their feet, they wear suits to make sure that they're not carrying contamination between sheds.

HANCOCKS: Just outside the 10-kilometer surveillance zone, wild chickens roam around at will. These areas are merely being monitored.

The British government says the strain of bird flu found at the Bernard Matthews factory is the same as that found last month in Hungary, where an outbreak among geese prompted the slaughter of thousands of birds.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The risk to the general public is judged by health experts to be negligible. In particular, the Food Standards Agency advised that there is no risk in eating any sort of properly cooked poultry, including turkey and eggs. At this stage, we do not know how this disease arrived in Suffolk.

HANCOCKS: The first outbreaks in the European Union were recorded in January 2006 in cases of wild swans. The first one found in Britain was on the 6th of April.

The U.K. poultry industry took a hit of $120 million in lost sales. This time, both Russia and Japan have already banned all imports of British poultry products.

To date, around 50 countries have had poultry infected with H5N1. The EU's top health officials say this won't be the last outbreak in Europe, but he is confident that outbreaks will be contained.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We should never feel that we are safe in the sense of having eradicated it, but we have a system in place, we have to remain vigilant, and we have to be ready to react.

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HANCOCKS: Bird flu has now hit three continents. It's killed 165 people worldwide. But officials here are at pains to insist that at this point, this particular outbreak is just a case of a disease for birds and not for humans -- Jim.

CLANCY: All right. Paula Hancocks there in Suffolk. Thank you for that.

This reminder -- the United Nations is warning the rest of Europe, be on guard for any outbreaks of bird flu just like this one. Since 2003, the virus has already killed 165 people across 50 different countries. Most cases have been in Asia, with Indonesia affected the most -- 63 deaths there. That is the most of any country in the world.

Now, roughly 200 million birds have died, either from effects of the disease, or from the culling process to prevent the disease from spreading. Health officials say bird flu is most often spread by migrating animals, migrating birds. Their biggest fear, the virus could mutate into a form that might be transmitted from human to human.

CHURCH: Well, police are investigating a letter bomb explosion at an office in central London. They say one woman was injured and treated at a hospital. The area was cordoned off after they received reports of a suspicious package. There's no word yet on the motive, but Scotland Yard's counterterrorism unit is not involved in the investigation.

CLANCY: Turner Broadcasting System, the parent company of this network and a public relations firm, both agreeing to reimburse the city of Boston and surrounding communities for last week's security scare. Lighted signs for a Cartoon Network show appeared around the Boston area and they were mistaken for bombs.

TBS and Interference Incorporated -- that's the P.R. firm -- are going to play $2 million to cover the police and other expenses. Two men have been charged in the case. They pleaded not guilty.

CHURCH: All right. We do want to check some of the day's other news.

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CHURCH: All right. Coming up, we'll be looking at what is being called the fastest growing refugee crisis in the world.

CLANCY: When YOUR WORLD TODAY returns, millions of Iraqis fleeing their homes. But where exactly are they going? CHURCH: Also ahead, locking hands in a human chain. Students in Iran show support for their country's nuclear program.

Stay with us.

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CLANCY: Welcome back to CNN International and YOUR WORLD TODAY.

CLANCY: A place we like to think brings you up to date on all the latest international stories all around the globe.

Well, to recap the top story today, at least 27 people have been killed in attacks across Baghdad. But as we learn about the day's dead and the wounded in Iraq, there are people who are not hearing about it.

CHURCH: That's right. The people who are there. Iraqis are fleeing their homes for safer areas of the country, or safer areas outside that country, at least.

Jonathan Mann joining us now with "Insight" -- Jon.

JONATHAN MANN, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: There are more than three million people who have been on the move searching for safety. It's being called the fastest growing refugee crisis in the world. A thousand Iraqis a day being driven from their homes or abandoning them out of fear.

The biggest exodus is from the city where the violence has been worse, Baghdad. But Baghdad is also a magnet for people moving away from dangers elsewhere.

Michael Holmes is in the northwest corner of the city in a neighborhood called Hurriya.

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MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice over): It looks like a garbage dump, but this patch of waste ground near Baghdad is home to more than a thousand Iraqis forced from their own homes by their country's sectarian bloodletting. Last month, the Iraqi prime minister pledged to help people like these return to their own homes.

Karima al-Surita (ph), who is a Sunni, says that would be a death sentence.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): I don't trust his word. I don't believe it. There's no safety in going back.

HOLMES: Like hundreds of thousands of other Iraqis, Karima (ph) and her family were forced to leave their home in predominantly Shia Taji, north of Baghdad, after a sectarian death threat. They had, she said, a nice house, a comfortable life.

Not anymore. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): No, it's just one room. Six of us live here.

HOLMES: And it is a small room. But the truth is, people like Karima (ph) won't go back to their old neighborhoods, not unless the security situation improves. And there is no sign of that happening.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): This is our situation. We have only God with us. My son is unemployed. Where can he work with no safety on the streets?

HOLMES: Karima's (ph) family is a microcosm of life for an estimated 1.5 million Iraqis. Last year, according to a new report, a thousand people a day were displaced, most of them ordinary civilians living ordinary lives until Iraqi turned on Iraqi, Shia driving out Sunni, Sunni driving out Shia at the point of a gun.

Karima's (ph) new neighborhood is a filthy patch of land -- open sewers, shoeless children wandering amid the garbage. Home to 100 families, the old and the young. In all, about a thousand people here. And during our visit, gun fire.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It sounds like we have got some small arms fire in that direction.

HOLMES: Hassan Hussein (ph) helps his mother. There's little else for him to do here. No school, no prospect for work.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I've been here almost a year. Cold weather, the water goes inside the house, shooting is everywhere. No one comes to help us.

HOLMES: "Look here," says Ahmed (ph), pointing to a family member, one of 20 in a tiny shack -- "he's old and sick. We have no medicine or nowhere else to go."

Ironically, this camp, if it can be called that, is in the shadow of a new joint security station where Iraqi security forces and U.S. soldiers will work together inside neighborhoods. U.S. officers told us that once they've set up, they will do what they can to improve life for these people. The problem is, there are dozens of places like this around the country, and precious little chance of the people who live in them going home any time soon.

Michael Holmes, Hurriya, Baghdad.

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MANN: If you're an Iraqis who has to leave home, the big question is how far to go to get to the people you trust. Sunnis seeking refuge among other Sunnis. Shias heading to Shias.

In Baghdad, the Tigris River has become a rough dividing line. East of the Tigris, largely Shiite neighborhoods which we've colored in red, Sunni ones to the west of the river in green. So the easiest move may be to find a safe haven inside of the city, and, in fact, Shiites outside of their own half of the city are moving east. The Sunnis are doing the corresponding thing, moving west. One thing to watch, though, as the fighting has intensified, Shiite militias have taken more and more land west of the river.

Now, beyond Baghdad, something similar. Shias are fleeing from the center of the country, towards the traditionally Shia south.

Sunnis, at the same time, are fleeing in the opposite direction, from the south. We're seeing them move to the north.

An even larger number of Iraqis have left the country all together, maybe two million, according to the U.N. Now, exact numbers are hard to come by, but the best estimates suggest that more than half million have gone to Syria, another half-million have gone to Jordan, a fragile country already supporting an enormous Palestinian refugee population.

Thousands more have gone west, to Egypt and to Lebanon. The last time the Middle East saw a flood of refugees like this, it was half a century ago. They were, of course, Palestinians. And the region hasn't been the same since.

Now the Iraqi refugees are a new wave, with consequences ahead we can only begin to imagine.

Back to you.

CLANCY: All right, Jonathan.

Thank you for that.

You know, it's amazing, because the latest reports say a thousand Iraqis a day left the country and they went to these places. Jordan feeling the economic impact of all of these people who are coming there. And a lot of the Jordanians see the Iraqis as being wealthier than they are.

But as this drags on, more and more people go, they are coming in with less and less. They're just desperate to flee the fighting with their families.

CHURCH: Exactly. And so many people -- it's going to be interesting to see the long-term social, political, and economic impact of this, a thousand Iraqis a day displaced. A lot of people.

CLANCY: And when do they go home?

All right. We've got to take a short break.

How is Wall Street starting off this trading week? We're going to head to New York for an update right after a break.

CHURCH: We'll do that. c Also ahead, a killer strain of tuberculosis threatens communities in South Africa. Now health officials there are considering some unprecedented measures to stop it.

Stay with us.

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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back to YOUR WORLD TODAY. I'm Rosemary Church.

JIM CLANCY, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Jim Clancy.

These are some of the stories that we're following this hour.

Authorities in Britain concluding a massive culling operation in an effort to contain an outbreak of bird flu. The deadly H5N1 strain was discovered over the weekend at a farm outside of London. The farm run by the country's largest turkey producer. In all, 160,000 turkeys will be destroyed.

CHURCH: Bomb and mortar attacks left at least 27 people dead and more than 100 wounded in Iraq. U.S. and Iraqi forces say they're moving ahead with a modified security plan for violence-ridden Baghdad. Now the revised plan calls for more U.S. and Iraqi troops and better coordination of those forces.

CLANCY: It's a non-binding resolution in the U.S. Senate, but its got lawmakers there up against the wall because voters will hold them accountable. The issue, do you or don't you support President Bush's plan to increase U.S. forces in Iraq? Senior political correspondent Candy Crawly is watching these developments on this story for us.

Candy, what does this vote come down to for the law makers themselves?

CANDY CRAWLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, for the lawmakers, you know, there are some, 2008, which is the next election year, here involved. There are many Republicans, 19 of them, who are running for re-election. Some of them in Democratic states. Some of them in just tough races in Republican states.

So while they are loath to tell you that this is a political vote, it is a very tough one, especially for Republicans. But there's some tough votes for Democrats too. There are four resolutions, Jim, on board. There are some that say we totally support the president's plan to put more troops into Iraq. That's another that says we want to withdraw the troops now. And there are a couple in-between.

So what they're trying to find now on Capitol Hill, the Democrats at least, are enough votes to make sure they can at least have a debate about these resolutions. Republicans have vowed to try to cut off debate try to move on to something else.

Jim. CLANCY: All of this, you know, people say, you know, the Democratic margin there in the Congress, very, very slim. But at the same time, it gives them control of the agenda. Are we going to see this pattern coming up for the next two years?

CROWLEY: Well, sure. I mean, controlling the agenda means you get to bring up on the floor whatever you want to bring up. You set the votes, you set the discussion. But this is not solely a Democratic thing. There are a number of Republicans who are joining with Democrats to say we oppose sending more troops to Iraq. So it doesn't cut as evenly along party lines as I suspect some other votes will.

CLANCY: Yes. But, you know, when you talk about the hand -- maybe some would say it's only a handful of Republicans. But when you look at their political aspirations, isn't this sending a message to the White House?

CROWLEY: Well, it absolutely is. When you look at those who have joined in for a resolution that says, we oppose sending more troops to Iraq. Of the seven that we know -- seven Republicans that we know will vote for that, five of them are up for re-election. One of them is running for president. So you do have a very large political component in that. And, obviously, senators have to watch at this point, as do congressman who are also up for election in 2008, they have to watch what their constituents want and weigh it between what they believe is the right thing to do.

CLANCY: All right. In a bind over a non-binding vote. Candy Crowley putting it into perspective for us there in Washington. As always, Candy, thanks.

Rosemary.

CHURCH: Well, Jim, in Gaza, dialogue is the way forward if Palestinians are to settle their differences and form a unity government. That's the message from Hamas Chief Khaled Mashaal on the eve of crucial talks in Saudi Arabia. Now the latest cease-fire between the two sides appears to be holding across Gaza City for now at least. Nearly two weeks of (INAUDIBLE) street battles have killed dozens and factional fighting has prevented the formation of a government since Hamas won parliamentary elections a year ago. Mashaal and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas tried but failed to reach agreement last month.

CLANCY: Middle East peace on the agenda in talks between Pakistan's president, General Pervez Musharraf, and Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. At the same time, European diplomatic sources say Iran is firing up those centrifuges in the Natanz nuclear plant. At least for testing purposes. Iran's already dealing with limited U.N. sanctions over fears it's trying to build atomic bombs. General Musharraf is on tour to promote the idea of a forum where Muslim nations help resolve conflicts in Iraq and Lebanon and in the Palestinian territories. Interesting, Iran is believed to have gotten the seed of its nuclear program from A.Q. Khan, the Pakistani scientist. CHURCH: Well, meanwhile, students protesting in Tehran are saying nuclear energy is our right and we're willing to defend it. They formed a human chain, waved Iranian flags and gathered petitions, in their words, "to slap America in the face." Iran denies western claims that it's using the nuclear program to build bombs. Now I spoke recently with Anthony Shahid of "The Washington Post" about how the U.S. is also accusing Iran of fermenting the war in Iraq and about fears that the U.S. might launch some sort of preemptive strike on Iran.

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ANTHONY SHAHID, "WASHINGTON POST": Well, I think you hear a lot of different sentiments pronounced in the region today about where this crisis is headed. There is, obviously, a certain apprehension about a nuclear armed Iran. But I think it's offset in some ways by the fear of repercussions of a possible attack on Iran.

I think there's a deep apprehension in the region of what those repercussions might be. Iran, obviously, has its -- has leverage in the region. It has allies in places like Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. Obviously it has a great deal of influence in Iraq.

On the periphery of the Arab world, Iran has a certain interest in Afghanistan as well. I think there is a deep worry about what this might spill into if we do see a military confrontation between Iran and the United States.

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CHURCH: That, again, was Anthony Shahid of "The Washington Post."

Jim.

CLANCY: Well, some interesting developments in international diplomacy. The Chinese president's eight nation tour of Africa has taken Hu Jintao to Namibia. The mineral-rich country one of the many nations reaping the benefits of friendship with Beijing. A friendship that's potentially worth hundreds of millions of dollars. As John Vause tells us, China is generous to its friends in other ways as well, particularly when it comes to turning a blind eye to human rights abuses.

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JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice over): A who's who of dictators and international outcasts with one thing in common -- they all call China friend. When China's president, Hu Jintao, visited Sudan last week, he called for a greater role for the U.N. to solve the conflict in Darfur, which the U.S. describes as genocide. But that was it. Instead, Hu wrote off millions of dollars in debt and promised to build a new place for Sudan's president. He described their relationship as one of friendship, with no strings attacked.

The country, which once sheltered Osama bin Laden, supplies China with 7 percent of its imported oil, second only to Iran. Last December, when the U.N. Security Council imposed sanctions on the Islamic republic for enriching uranium, Russia watered them down, supported by China. And when it comes to resource rich Zimbabwe, which has been slapped with international sanctions for widespread human rights abuses, China has spent billions in loans and investments. And just last month, the new Chinese ambassador there described Zimbabwe as an "all time friend of the Chinese people and government."

DAVID ZWEIG, POLITICAL ANALYST: The United States is trying to squeeze those countries to get them to behave better and China gives these countries an outlet.

VAUSE: Last year, when Venezuelan president, the vehemently anti-U.S. Hugo Chavez, signed a deal to sell more oil to China, many speculated it was more to do with geo politics than good business. Recently, China dragged North Korea back to nuclear talks, but it still gives the reclusive regime diplomatic cover. Officially, Beijing says it has no interests in the internal affairs of other countries.

LIU JIANCHAO, CHINESE FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESMAN, (through translator): We oppose exerting political pressures on other countries under the pretext of human rights.

ZWEIG: For them it raises very serious problems because there are questions in the world about how they manage their internal affairs.

VAUSE: For China, the bottom line is, well, the bottom line. Arguing that business is business. Among government officials, there seems little angst that they'll be judged by the company they keep.

John Vause, CNN, Beijing.

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CHURCH: All right. Now to the flooding in the capital of Indonesia. Monday brought clear skies, but the crisis in Jakarta is far from over. Many areas are still submerged and officials are concerned about disease outbreaks. It's the worst flooding in five years and some say the government shares the blame with nature. Kathy Quiano has more.

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KATHY QUIANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice over): The rains have stopped in Jakarta for now, but 32-year-old Muliana still wades through a foot of water to get to his house. Better than Sunday when this area was submerged in waters six times that.

Muliana's lived along this river in south Jakarta all his life. He says these are the worst floods he's seen.

Muliana says it's sad to live in a place that gets flooded all the time. I experienced it in 2002, but I didn't expect the waters to get so high. Officials blame unusual heavy rains that hit Jakarta last week. They say the city is a natural catch basin for water gushing from the hills surrounding the capital.

Jakarta is a low-lying city. Forty percent of the capital is, in fact, under sea level. Thirteen rivers and various canals run through the city, making it venerable to flooding.

But the rivers and canals are both (INAUDIBLE) and clogged with debris. Some here blame the government for poor urban planning and a lack of environmental concern. They point to a construction boom the past two years. Jakarta's governor says it's not that simple.

SUTIYOSO, JAKARTA GOVERNOR, (through translator): The government is building a canal that will direct flood waters out to the sea. This is not just a problem for Jakarta. Whatever we do here will be useless if we no know control over the areas surrounding the city.

QUIANO: But the canal will cost millions and take years to finish. For now, tens of thousands are homeless. Many are in evacuation centers. But others are forced to stay in makeshift tents with little food or clean water. Officials say relief is on its way.

SUTIYOSO: We have supplies to meet the victims' needs, but our problem is getting it to them. Many live in areas that are inaccessible because of the floods.

QUIANO: In Muliana's neighborhood, there's only one source of fresh water and no electricity. It's the monsoon season and more rain is expected. Residents here refuse to leave their homes, so they watch the river and hope to escape when the waters come rushing through again.

Kathy Quiano, CNN, Jakarta.

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CHURCH: All right. Coming up, a killer is on the loose in South Africa.

CLANCY: And what we're talking about here is a new form or strain of tuberculosis. It is so virulent that some doctors consider it incurable and they warn they may have to lock away those who contract it. We'll have details coming up from Femi Oke.

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CLANCY: Hello and welcome back, everyone. You're watching YOUR WORLD TODAY on CNN International.

CHURCH: Where we are seen live in more than 200 countries right across the globe.

Well, all soccer matches in Italy have been canceled indefinitely after the death of a police officers of the violent aftermath of a match between two Sicilian rivals. CLANCY: Our own Rome bureau chief, Alessio Vinci, telling us that everyone agrees something's got to be done to avoid such violence in the future. But every single alternative seems heartbreaking to Italy's football loving fans.

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ALESSIO VINCI, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice over): In just a few months, the Italian football went from a game-fixing scandal, to World Cup heroes. But the death of a police officer during riots after a game brought the rollercoaster to a dramatic stop. The country mourns its second football-related death in a week, while asking what to do next.

MARIO PESCANTE, FORMER PRESIDENT, ITALIAN OLYMPIC COMMITTEE: The Italian parliament can (INAUDIBLE) most severe, more severe on the same (ph) way of the English legislation.

VINCI: One possible solution under consideration is to continue the championship behind closed doors with no supporters allowed inside. Extra security measures, like video surveillance and I.D. checks of ticket holders were introduced two years ago, but only three of the more than a dozen stadiums currently hosting (INAUDIBLE) games meets security standards. Rocket flairs, long outlawed in many countries, are still very much in use here by exuberant fans. And many troublemakers, disguised as football fans, still find their way inside stadiums. A popular sports radio host says the problem is also social.

DANO CASTALDO, RADIO SHOW HOST: It's something that's become the trash bin of this country, where you see corruption, where you see violence, where you see trickers, or you see nobody respecting the rules, where you see lots of money and so all the bad aspects of this wonderful country has been concentrated into football.

VINCI: Some players say it's time to treat those responsible like criminals.

IGLI TARE, LAZIO FORWARD: The jail. The jail, but not for one or for two years, but something like 15 or 20 years. So the people have to think very good about it before they do things like they did.

VINCI: Stiff measures that will prevent known hooligans from entering or even approaching football stadiums is what most analysts say government officials, as well as football federation officials should work on right away. Football fans, real football fans, are desperately asking for it.

Alessio Vinci, CNN, Rome.

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CLANCY: Well, South Africa has one of the worst rates of tuberculosis infections than any place else in the world. But what really worries doctors is, they had an outbreak last year and it killed almost every single patient that got it. CHURCH: That's right. Now this extreme form of tuberculosis has not been stopped yet and doctors say they might possibly isolate the worst cases. That means locking them away, of course. Femi Oke reports.

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FEMI OKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice over): James coughs a lot when he talks. He has a serious form of tuberculosis that doesn't respond to normal drugs.

JAMES, TB PATIENT: Well, it's useless for me to run away from this treatment and do other things, maybe get (ph) a lot of money for myself and then die tomorrow (INAUDIBLE) this disease.

OKE: Like other patients in this isolation hospital, he's here for four months of painful treatment. Tuberculosis is caused by a germ that floats in the air and can be inhaled by anybody. But it's treatable as long as you take your medicine. If you stop taking the medicine too early, the disease can develop into drug resistant forms of TB, which can kill you.

DR. NORBERT NDJEKA, FH ODENDAAL SOUTH TB HOSPITAL: These are man-made conditions. The main reason why these conditions occur is inappropriate TB treatment. Or maybe the patient defaulted previous TB treatment.

OKE: The stigma about getting TB in South Africa, as often goes hand in hand with HIV/AIDS. James doesn't want me to show his face, but he's not embarrassed to admit he caused his own suffering.

JAMES: Sometimes I take my pills, sometimes I'm too busy I don't have the time. Sometimes I'm too drunk to take them.

OKE: Dr. Ndjeka shows me around a new hospital unit which specializes in drug resistant TB. This is South Africa's answer to tackling the growing number of cases of extreme tuberculosis. The worst form of TB is extensive drug resistant tuberculosis, or XDR. Darius Lebang has it and he allowed us to film in his room.

If you look up in the ceiling, extractor fans are there as well, also helping to draw out the germs. Now you're not sharing this room with anybody for a very special reason, so that you don't spread your TB to anybody else.

DARIUS LEBANG, TB PATIENT: (INAUDIBLE) wear a mask so I won't infect somebody next to me.

OKE: The number of cases like Darius' are growing. And local health authorities can forcibly detain an infectious disease sufferers with a court order.

NDJEKA: The best way to threat these XDR patients is to isolate them from the others. They shouldn't be allowed to live in the community. OKE: It's a controversial response to South Africa's TB crisis, but doctors say it wouldn't be necessary if patients took their medicine.

Femi Oke in Popo (ph) Province, South Africa.

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CLANCY: All right. Well, we've got to take a short break.

Coming up, he says he wants more conversation and less confrontation.

CHURCH: Well, there's something different. That's quite a change from the way things used to work at the Pentagon, at least where the press was concerned. We'll see how the new U.S. defense secretary is keen on keeping things low key. He says it's just part of his style.

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CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone.

Well, you've probably seen him at least once at a podium, eyes flashing, arms waving, forcefully making his point.

CLANCY: That's right. Donald Rumsfeld, the former defense secretary in the U.S., famous with correspondents. Our own Pentagon correspondent used to say that you'd ask him a question and what he really did was question whether you should have asked that question or not, rather than giving you an answer. But he's had to make way. He's stepped aside now.

CHURCH: That's right. That reporter you refer to, of course, is our Jamie McIntyre. He reports that Rumsfeld's replacement as U.S. defense secretary has a kinder, gentler style. Let's take a look.

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JAMIE MCINTYRE, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice over): It may strike some as rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, but Robert Gates wants Pentagon briefings better suited to his more low-key style.

ROBERT GATES, U.S. DEFENSE SECRETARY: Well, what you see is a compromise between your needs and my desire for greater informality in all of this.

MCINTYRE: So out went the American flag and the podium that his predecessor, Donald Rumsfeld, used as a bully pulpit to eviscerate the press. And in came a sedate desk with a background featuring a subtle map motif.

When I look at you two up here sitting behind the desk, I can't help think that you look like the anchor team for the evening news on the Pentagon channel.

Gates insists it's no knock on Rumsfeld, who's free for all briefings were must-see TV a few years back.

DONALD RUMSFELD, FORMER DEFENSE SECRETARY: Will you (INAUDIBLE) just a minute. Just a minute. I was asked a question and I'm going to take all the time I want.

MCINTYRE: Gates says he wants more conversation, less confrontation.

GATES: And it says nothing about the past, it's just about my style.

MCINTYRE: Gates' style couldn't be less Rumsfeldian. In his '70s, Rumsfeld insisted working all day at his standup desk. Gates, a decade younger, says he'd rather sit down, thank you.

GATES: And, frankly, I get tired when I stand up too long.

MCINTYRE: The whole briefing thing is kind of a culture shock for the normally reserved Gates who, after all, in his last job as spy master, pried himself on not talking to reporters.

GATES: I didn't do it much in my last job as director of Central Intelligence. And it may have changed, but we didn't have a press room at CIA.

MCINTYRE: He first tried inviting reporters to his office dining room, but that was to cramped and made some of the reporter's cranky. So the Pentagon's set designers got their orders to remake the briefing room into something more Gates-friendly. The format is still a work in progress.

We could just drop by your office in the morning.

GATES: Actually, that thought occurred, but then we couldn't accommodate the cable networks, so.

MCINTYRE: Jamie McIntyre, CNN, the Pentagon.

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CLANCY: All right.

CHURCH: A very difference style there.

CLANCY: Yes. We're going to end it on a little bit of a lighter note.

CHURCH: Very.

CLANCY: You know, some brides have all of the attention at their wedding, Rosemary, even hamming it up for the cameras.

CHURCH: Did mention that and (INAUDIBLE) they should. But this bride, at least, was just being herself.

CLANCY: That's right. Two pot belly porkers have hooked it to the altar in northeastern Taiwan to celebrate the year of the pig.

CHURCH: And a local parish priest resided over the ceremony, attended by more than 100 guests.

CLANCY: Yes, the pope's going to excommunicate him now. Anyway, well wishers donated money to charity in honor of the two porkers. Here, look at that, it looks like they're going to kiss. Oh, no, not really.

CHURCH: Very romantic. But the best gift of all, the pigs will be allowed to live out their days without fear of landing on the dinner table. The best gift ever.

CLANCY: All right.

CHURCH: That's it for this hour.

CLANCY: All right. I'm Jim Clancy.

CHURCH: And I'm Rosemary Church. And this is CNN.

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